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To: F9driver who wrote (15493)	2/13/2002 7:44:02 AM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 15703

F9 - back off buddy. I do not know what ax you are trying to grind but after 3 years of correspondence with GH I have found him to nothing but straight forward and factual. He had the good sense to put his ELHFS in remission while the play dragged on to seemingly no where. The water comments made recently are a typical engineering/scientific attempt to develop a model that matches the experience. His thoughts on this have been consistent for a long time. This play has become purely a matter of economics - revenues versus costs - it is clear the gas is there. Clearly the opportunity still exists for us to win as money continues to be invested in the play. Finally - getting in on the cheap - well - that opportunity has existed all winter thanks to the of course drills and tempermental cement - not any poster! Peronally - I have concentrated my holdings on PYR. Win or loose I believe they can at least be there for the finish line. Bob

To: F9driver who wrote (15493)	2/13/2002 12:44:34 PM
From: grayhairs	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15703

You're absolutely right F9. You've seen right through me you clever man. I've never drilled anything other than post holes in the frozen North !!! Hell, I've never even seen a drilling rig, core sample, set of logs, pressure survey, or production test. I don't know the first thing about reserve calculations, production forecasts, operating budgets or capital budgets. I've never even bought or sold a single barrel of oil let alone a company. Sure would have but I guess I sniffed too much H2S as a youth. Oh well, fortunately you know it all !!!

To: F9driver who wrote (15493)	2/15/2002 4:27:13 PM
From: John M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15703

F9, Are you an engineer?????? If not may be you should listen to Grayhairs. As an engineer, my problem with two phases is that it is not possible at the bottom hole conditions. Maybe there is a deep overpressured supercritical water drive deep below the Temblor. That would help explain the high temperatures of the produced fluid (it simply cannot be that hot at the depth they are producing from). When you pull the BHP down, maybe that gives the lower water enough umph to overcome the hydrostatic pressure from the lower water to the hydrocarbon reservior. Based on the temperature, I would guess the water is about 2000' deeper than the Temblor. Now...how can a supercritical water and a supercritical hydrocarbon reservoir in contact keep from thoroughly mixing?? The ping pong balls are hitting the walls and each other quite vigorously at 16,000 psig and 360 F. I would have thought that the molecules would all mix. But Grayhairs is right..the water cut should not change from the beginning to the end. That has not been the case since it has coned in big time from 100 BBLs/MMscf to 3000 BBls/MMscf. I picture a supercrical vein of water molecules being sucked up from 22,000 ft through a fracture into the Temblor hydrocarbon zone and coning into the wellbore. One Engineer's, with overpressured deep experience, opinion. John M