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To: Enigma who wrote (82073)	2/14/2002 2:52:15 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116790

<<The Democrats forced Enron to be bad - screw their employees - fudge the books>> While it takes more effort, pay-offs, temptation to make some stray from the correct path than others, do you: 1) Deny connections between the Clinton administration, parts of the top of the current Democratic party, and several investment banking firms? 2) Do you moreover(stupidly & blindly) deny banking firms which loan the money control great amounts of the operation?

To: Enigma who wrote (82073)	2/14/2002 4:24:19 PM
From: Little Joe	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116790

While no one can defend Enron in this mess. I was a stockholder who got out with a small loss, but I am not happy about the company's antics at all. Someone should go to jail over this. It was clearly a fraud. However it galls me to see these sanctimonious, phony politicians who were happy to take obscene amounts of money from Enron, now claiming the moral high ground. When the Social Security Ponzi scheme that they created collapses like Enron will they take the blame. You can bet they won't. Many on this thread have written about other companies that are over exposed to derivitives. If we know it, I have to believe they know it. What is congress doing about it? If J.P> Morgan or Chase or Citibank or any number of others go under because they are playing the derivitive game these clowns will call the officers up and berate them, when they could now do something about it and are looking the other way, I suspect because in one way or another their pockets are being lined. Sorry for the rant, but sometimes I have to let it out. Little joe