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To: craig crawford who wrote (139317)	2/14/2002 3:34:40 PM
From: craig crawford	Respond to of 164684

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. --Matthew 7:1-5

To: craig crawford who wrote (139317)	2/15/2002 1:51:29 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 164684

>>do you judge terrorists? murderers? rapists? do you judge william? << if i did, i would condemn myself. their actions are wrong and they deserve death as sinners, but so do i. i judge them, i judge myself. did you forget that scripture, craig? ;-) sin is sin, no matter if craig thinks one is worse than another. the wages earned are the same - death. there aren't 50 types of death depending on craig's sin rating. judgment is spiritual in nature - you have god using aids to kill off homosexuals and it appears their suffering and death brings JOY to your life a little kid eating ice cream. should your sin be repaid in kind? doing one's best to protect society from folks who committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt is NOT spiritual judging. come on, craig, you must think god is stupid to sanction a totally lawless physical society! however, god retains 100% control over spiritual judgment and it is god's strong desire that ALL will eventually be saved. that is also my desire, too. ps - in god's eyes a murder is own who hates. an adulterer is one who lusts. a terrorist is someone who THINKS about terrorist acts. there will be plenty of ex sinners saved by god in his own time and way - and that includes terrorist, murders and adulterers. i do not judge them lest i condemn myself. i'd put them in jail if they committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt, but i wouldn't judge their salvation.