To: 2MAR$ who wrote (10882 ) 2/17/2002 7:08:36 PM From: average joe Respond to of 28931 "Virtually nothing is known about his youth or his life." Too bad we can't send Dan Rather back in a time capsule to get the real scoop. How does that saying go? Blessed are those that have and believed but more blessed are those that have not seen yet still believed."Only the the last 2 or 3 yrs of his life." Well he was born in a manger, financed by three wise men from the east, took off for Egypt and then came back home. What is wrong with that? Then he made a bunch of people uppity and Pilate had him crucified. This is not an exercise of the intellect it is a passion play."The largest religious gatherings on the earth at the time was this purification and ritual bathing in India, and still is to this day . 25million last year." I bet a lot of people pee in that river!"And John the Baptist never heard of this?" But did it affect the happiness and joy of John the Baptist on this earth? I would rather be happy than right any day of the week."This Jesus is self-contradictory . He preaches love and turning the other cheek , and the next week wishes his enemies brought before him and slain . He preaches forgiveness and tolerance and in the next sentence condemns the other tribes as being dogs and not worthy of God's message . And only to have a ministry of 3 yrs seems rather a short time for a Son of God to manage to minister. If he , being the Only Son of God , surely could managed to stay long enough to really clearly define the terms." We are created in the image of God and we like God have many contradictions."But we find out , Jesus himself thought the Kingdom was at hand, even while some of his disciples lived, it would come." Maybe it did come for them. Maybe through some process they achieved a type of Christian Nirvana that only faith can bring about. "There were of course the "miracles" , but we find the miracle of walking on the water taken from a story of one of Buddha's disciples 500yrs earlier." Maybe they both did it. Maybe they are both related and have something in common. Good point!"A curious mixture of hope and despair....but religion was ever born of fear and despair....and hope. So many things are borrowed from the predessors. The tale of the flood in Genesis we know comes from the Babylonian story." Christ was a rebel. His followers can say my God walks on water, divides a loaf of bread to feed the multitude and raises the dead. This is a powerful image for someone not satisfied with how Caesar is running the shop. Can the Gore Gals do that?"Must be we are already living in eternity , and the Kingdom never came , because it never went . As Buddha taught it had more to do with living and awakening." Maybe some of us are - good point!"The young ones grow and the old ones know" Age does not denote wisdom, just look at X~! Without NAMASTE everything is impossible.