To: Greg or e who wrote (10888 ) 2/18/2002 12:47:35 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931 I'll respond to this post again, so people will see that it is you who started (yet again), right out of the blue with the insulting and juvenile behavior I haven't seen where you have once responded to the original post or the points I made clear and questions posed clearly to you . The last one concerning the relevance of Hell that you have been boring this thread with for weeks and months it seems . I am sorry if you interpret my direct emphasis of the words spoken by Jesus himself as juvenile and insulting . Jesus spoke very clearly and to great length on the subject of the virtues of Hell and eternal damnation. You have worn on to great length here about this . My question was a simple one for you : " So this fairytale belief you have in everlasting Hell makes you a more Virtuous man ? Humble ? Contemplative? Serene? Less plagued by avarice and greed ? Intellectually and emotionally whole ? A man of peace ? Imaginative and creative ? " Message 17073923 It is not hate towards your beliefs in any way that motivates me to try and uncover something besides weak evasions from you . I am intolerant of ignorance , I will admit . I see you responding to nothing whatsoever I posted to you , when any other Christian would have been happy to , and let his love for Jesus manifest and speak it simply and sincerely. You have a problem proclaiming your love for Jesus in public ? And I have seen nothing even resembling a coherent answer for these very serious questions , you understand only as pure dogma without the slightest understanding it seems either spiritually or figuratively .Reading them conjures up the image of someone who spits while they talk. I feel sorry for you. My question concerning Hell above still stands before you to answer or no . I am quiet eloquent in person McRitchie, soft spoken and clear-eyed , but very intollerant of fundamentalist dogmatists that cannot even see the words written clearly before them spoken by their Master and see the limitations he himself put upon himself . Jesus was ever consumed with a serious defect in character with his and your own childish belief in Hell and eternal damnation . This is evident in the Gospels and Christ was ever spitting and sputtering on with vindictive fury against those who would not believe in his preaching . Sort of like you greg , but like father like son . No deeply profound human being , imo , would even dare to touch this absurd belief in the present , but you would ? So back to your drawing board , Mcritchie ...try Greg , really try to see the direct question above to you framed repeatedly, and try to make a coherent answer this try .