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To: KLP who wrote (19154)2/17/2002 8:57:56 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Is it true that government workers can't be fired?

In the FBI, if you screw up, you get promoted. Look where the people who were at Ruby Ridge and Waco are today.



To: KLP who wrote (19154)2/18/2002 12:09:25 AM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
>>Is it true that government workers can't be fired?<<

They can be fired for cause. Most places in the US have "employment at will" laws - your employer can fire you for any reason at all, as long as it is not a bad reason (bad reasons = race, sex, religion, national origin, age, and in some circumstances, disability). By law civil service employees can only be fired for cause, to prevent cronyism and patronage (the incumbent administration firing all the old government workers and hiring his cronies or those who pay him a bribe).

Argument against: featherbedding, hard to get rid of less than exemplary employees.

Balancing act. You studied American history, this was a good government reform of the excesses of the Gilded Age, like Tammany Hall. Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote something about his tenure in a political appointment at the Salem Custom House in his introduction to The Scarlet Letter.



To: KLP who wrote (19154)2/18/2002 9:05:57 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Usually only for cause can they be fired. Many groups of Federal employees are unionized making it even harder...

JLA