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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (10916)	2/18/2002 9:17:40 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 28931

My goodness, your stupidity overwhelms me. I have said over and over again hope I feel about totalitarian thought- religious AND secular- with your fabulous abilities to read and understand written material how is it that you have missed these points? Especially when we had some of these discussions entre nous? Many communists like living where they are. They could come to the West if they wanted- some of them (many of them) choose to stay. Let's take an example of Elian's dad. He chose to go back to a communist state. He didn't have a gun at his his head here- although I suppose those freedom loving Cubans in Florida would have loved to hold one to his head to make him stay (for his own good of course- gee- where've I heard THAT before. Could it be....communist countries?). Some people will choose not to be free. There are people in Russia who long for the security of communism. They want someone to tell them what to do, just as you have someone tell you what to do with your religion. They are your brothers and sisters in totalitarian conformist thought, Greg, I am surprised you do not recognize that. Free thought is alien to you, so you are actually much closer to a communist than I am. "If communism, "if it's such a Utopia" LIES Greg. I never said anything positive about communism. I merely said they are cultures without God. Which they are, and that breaks the back of your argument. I realize the logic of that might escape you, or might threaten you so much you must go off the wall, but that is your problem. The point is not all cultures line up to be a paradigm that supports your beliefs. You had better just accept that if you want to believe what you believe, you had better not try to use all humans and the natural world to support your beliefs. Be proud of your irrational leap of faith- it wouldn't be faith if you could prove it Greg. Take a deep breath, stand tall, and repeat these words "I'm irrational and Damn Proud of IT". Maybe even yell it out the window.

To: Greg or e who wrote (10916)	2/18/2002 9:36:34 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 28931

Greg- just to recap- I was afraid my last post to you might have been too complicated for you to actually read, because I don't think your comprehension skills are at the level you advertised previously. 1. I said communist cultures do not have Gods after YOU said "Consciousness of right and wrong IS a universal human trait, but then so is the knowledge of God's existence,. " 2.You tell me there are post communist Chinese Christians (millions and millions of them? Data please Greg- burden of proof is on you) 3. You suggest I LOVE communism (because they don't believe in God- do can I take this as agreement that you DO understand there are cultures that do not have knowledge of God's existence? You can't have it both ways, Greg) 4. You further suggest I should move to a communist country if I think it is the utopia I NEVER said it was I hope you can see the poverty of your thoughts in this recapitulation. You need to be much more careful when you argue. Try to think before you write. This will be of tremendous advantage to you.

To: Greg or e who wrote (10916)	2/18/2002 9:44:03 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

Truce...... >>"If communism.....If it's such a utopia" You say you have talked to Chinese people? If that were true then you would know that they "love" communism when there is a gun pointed at their head, but it's a different story for those have the freedom to speak openly. You're the one who made the "little communists who love communism" remark and backed it up with first hand knowledge. It sounded like an endorsement to me. I'm happy to here that you don't support Communism but since it is predicated on the idea that there is no God I thought you would be "all in favor" of it.>> Greg: Let's go back to that beautiful snow covered scene on Christmas Day or Eve out on the Western Front somewhere in Europe during WWI. How bout a truce? Let's leave behind the separation, claim, blame and shame of our egoic foxholes and walk into the perfect FREEDOM of this New Light of Day in this New Age. I chose to unconditionally receive and share that X is ONE (1) with ALL of us!! I chose to unconditionally receive and share that YOU are ONE (1) with ALL of us!! I chose to unconditionally receive and share that everyONE on this thread is ONE (1) with ALL of us!! These foxholes only exist in the illusion of this separated insanity of disconnectedness which support, define and enslave us to the madness of our egos. I heartily recommend ONE (1) thing for such a condition of disconnectedness: SINGING!!! Sing a song!! Perhaps Silent Night, or I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas. Our Lord created these songs!! Not mankind!! He creates everything, ALL things!! And FREEDOM does exist!! 119293!!