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To: gao seng who wrote (2405)2/18/2002 3:33:03 PM
From: gao seng  Respond to of 7720
 
McCarthy was right.

A couple of things I just recently came across:

For example, Owen Lattimore was not "the number one Soviet spy in America," as McCarthy claimed. But he was an influential scholar and shameless toady of Communism, who even visited the Gulag with vice-president Henry Wallace and pronounced it good.
amazon.com

A passage from Arthur Herman's great book, "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life
and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator", describes just
how permissive, negligent and culpable Truman and his "liberal" Democrats were in
damaging Americas struggle for survival in this turbulent and precarious post-war period.

Just shortly after Truman was replaced by Eisenhower as present. Eisenhower's attorney
general made a startling public revelation that seemed to confirm, rather than weaken
McCarthy's [anti-communist cause]. Herbert Brownell announced that the Justice Department had definitive proof that Harry Dexter White had been a Soviet spy and--even more
damning that President Truman had know since the end of 1945 and had done nothing about it. Indeed, after learning that White was a spy, Truman had recommended him as head
of the IMF.

We now know that it was the Venona decrypts (a secret Soviet code-breaking project of
the G-2 (Army Intelligence) and in 1948 the FBI, that earlier had exposed both Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs. It is interesting that for many years this project was
prudently kept secret even from the White House) that allowed Brownell to be so certain of the facts. But the announcement was a serious blow to the "liberals" [socialists]
who had for years claimed that the Red Scare was just hysteria [McCarthyism, a witch hunt] and pure partisan politics, as well as being an unexpected vindication of Senator
McCarthy and his efforts.

Truman furiously denied the story--although his former Secretary of State James Byrnes
(delighted to see his old boss on the hot seat) and FBI director Hoover contradicted him. Even the [very Leftist] "New Republic" had to concede that the evidence against
White--and Truman--was convincing. (pp. 243-244)
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To: gao seng who wrote (2405)2/18/2002 4:49:53 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7720
 
I don't think you are a wacko, but I'm not sure you are carefully reading what I am saying.

I think the nuclear weapons in the hands of communists states are a massive current threat, perhaps a threat that is unlikely to be realized but still very dangerous.

I think communism is an evil ideology and that many millions of people where killed in its name.

I think that if communism went away it would be a good thing.

I think the idea of communism gaining any more influence or power in the world esp. in the US would be awful.

However I don't think communists in the US are very powerful or likely to become so soon.

Tim

Edit - The only thing that you said that I thought was wacky was calling Karen an enemy of democracy