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To: milo_morai who wrote (159195)2/18/2002 7:47:16 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Ban Ban MindBlo - Nobody invited the Fatwah to the Cell Phone party !!!

"Microsoft, Intel, TI in mobile tie-ups - The companies aim to repeat what they have done to the personal computer industry, where Microsoft and Intel have standardised key software and semiconductor hardware, with the Windows operating system software and Pentium processors. Each product has more than 80 percent share of their respective markets.

biz.yahoo.com

Monday February 18, 7:05 pm Eastern Time

Microsoft, Intel, TI in mobile tie-ups

By Lucas van Grinsven and Duncan Martell

CANNES, France/SAN FRANCISCO, Feb 19 (Reuters) - U.S. technology companies Microsoft Corp. (NasdaqNM:MSFT - news), Intel Corp (NasdaqNM:INTC - news) and Texas Instruments Inc. (NYSE:TXN - news) on Tuesday announced blueprints for new cellphones and handheld computer phones.
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Breaking with the tradition of custom-designed technology for each cellphone manufacturer, the three companies will work to develop so-called reference designs, which, if adopted by enough vendors, could establish these blueprints as standards for much of the industry.

The companies aim to repeat what they have done to the personal computer industry, where Microsoft and Intel have standardised key software and semiconductor hardware, with the Windows operating system software and Pentium processors. Each product has more than 80 percent share of their respective markets.

The U.S. companies made their announcements at the 3GSM World Congress here, Europe's largest trade show for the wireless industry, which is still dominated by European companies such as Ericsson and Nokia .

But at the same time, analysts noted that Microsoft hadn't made a great deal of headway since last year's GSM conference, when it signalled its intent to go after the smartphone market. Microsoft has developed such designs before, for handheld computers and so-called tablet PCs.

``Microsoft still doesn't have any products to show for,'' said Gartner analyst Ben Wood.

In separate deals with Microsoft, semiconductor makers Intel and Texas Instruments will work together to develop integrated chips and software that can turn a handheld computer into a mobile phone, ready to make calls and download corporate email.

An Intel spokesman said that his company and Microsoft would have a design available later this year. Texas Instruments already has a product developed.

For its part, Microsoft is backing Intel's PCA technology, which is a blueprint that the chipmaker is pushing as a standard for next-generation wireless phones and handheld computers that work with its XScale processors. Intel, in turn, is backing Microsoft's PocketPC Phone operating system, which is gaining ground against the Palm Inc. (NasdaqNM:PALM - news) operating system.

Smartphones and personal digital assistant (PDA) phones are different categories. PDA phones are handheld computers that are mainly used for wireless data communications, but they can double as a phone. Smartphones are first and foremost light voice phones, and get their ``smarts'' from the ability to display diaries, receive email and play music files.

Microsoft is betting that consumers and employees will want to read their email and messages in a format that resembles their computer email.

SMARTPHONE COLLISION

Microsoft is taking on a mobile phone industry that is already facing increased competition in low-end cellphones from Asian electronics makers. The industry had hoped the smartphone segment would remain an exclusive, high-end business for the next few years.

Microsoft will have to fight an uphill battle as many cellphone vendors have stakes in Britain's Symbian (quote from Yahoo! UK & Ireland: PON.L), which is currently rolling out its own smartphone software that can handle email, calendars and messages.

Symbian is backed by four of the world's top five cellphone makers, which make 70 percent of all cellphones produced worldwide. SonyEricsson and Nokia have already launched their first smartphones that run on Symbian.

Intel, in August 2001, said it and Symbian would collaborate. Symbian software allows for greater compatibility between different smartphones than its Microsoft counterpart.

Of the top five cellphone manufacturers, only Samsung has said it will use Microsoft Windows Powered Smartphone 2002 software. The South Korean company, the world's fourth largest cellphone maker, is expected to launch a Microsoft-based product at the end of this year.

Japan's Mitsubishi and Britain's Sendo are the only other cellphone makers to use Microsoft Smartphone software, with Sendo closest to a commercial launch.

PDA PHONES

The situation is different for phone-enabled PDAs, where Microsoft faces competition from Handspring (NasdaqNM:HAND - news), Nokia and Canada's Research In Motion (Toronto:RIM.TO - news).

Microsoft on Tuesday boasted two new clients for its Pocket PC Phone edition. One is Hewlett-Packard (NYSE:HWP - news), which will introduce a PDA (personal digital assistant) phone based on the TI-Microsoft platform. HP said the device will on the shelves in June.

Taiwanese peer Compal , which already produces Compaq's (NYSE:CPQ - news) iPAQ Pocket PC, said it will also use Microsoft phone software.

The first Pocket PC Phones will hit the shelves almost simultaneously with Handspring's Treo. The Treo, based on Palm software, is lighter and smaller than its Microsoft rivals.

However, the partnerships with Intel and Texas Instruments have given Microsoft powerful allies to quickly gain support and extend its lead in this product category, which is already quite similar to the PC industry, said Gartner's Wood.

(Additional reporting by Scott Hillis in Seattle, Wash.)

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To: milo_morai who wrote (159195)2/18/2002 8:14:41 PM
From: wanna_bmw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Milo, Re: "Hammer chipset, the K8HTB, with AGP 4X/8X and an 8X V-Link throughput, is set to go sampling this April"

Hopfully, they get it out on time. But as you know, getting new infrastructure out to support new architectures doesn't always end up being on time (in fact, most supporting infrastructure for brand new architectures ends up with multiple delays). VIA is very experienced right now designing around the EV6 interface, as evidenced with their multiple Athlon chipsets. Designing around high speed Hypertransport, though, is a different matter. Of course, if they are sampling in April, maybe they are ahead of the game.

wbmw



To: milo_morai who wrote (159195)2/18/2002 8:46:36 PM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
From TMF: Why AMD chips are so fragile

We all know about the fragility of AMD's newest CPU's and I think I've figured out the reason why. Market Share (chip shipments)

Everytime you snap your AMD chip when your installing it, you have to go out and buy another one. Quite a few websites warn you to be careful when installing the chips because of the danger of them cracking. If an "expert" like Tom (Tom's Hardware) or Anand (anandtech.com) break the chips when installing them, then how many home users are doing it?

So for every broken chip, AMD gets to consider it as two chips shipped. The original one and the replacement one. If a user has already dumped $300-400 into a motherboard and the necessary memory, they aren't going to put them aside and say they tried.

IMO,
Rob

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