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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (228275)	2/18/2002 7:39:07 PM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

who cares about decency, baby...we got EVIL out there...

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (228275)	2/18/2002 7:52:03 PM
From: Peter O'Brien	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Ray, If our taxes were simple, low, and flat, then the "scheming corporations" would have absolutely nothing to "scheme" about! And, the government would collect plenty of money... Re: "paying equitably" You have avoided the point that I raised earlier. These companies are still paying the full U.S. tax on their U.S.-based operations. What inherent claim does the U.S. government have on profits that are derived solely from non-U.S.-based operations?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (228275)	2/18/2002 8:07:47 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Corporations shouldn't have to pay any tax at all. Their shareholders and employees do already, and a tax on the corporation is double taxation. By your definition, a "scheming" corporation is one that avails itself of its rights. I'm sure you think Ken Lay ought to serve double prison time for availing himself of his Constitutional rights, too. Corporations are merely a conglomeration of people, in the form of shareholders and employees. The longstanding and nonsensical leftist tradition of treating corporations as a separate, evil whipping boy needs to be brought to an end.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (228275)	2/18/2002 8:47:11 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

We'll simply have to agree to disagree. No. We'll simply have to beat your socialist asses in every election. We simply have to. Because there's no where on Earth to escape to if you win.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (228275)	2/18/2002 10:58:26 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

Your first sentence is absolutely correct. Why so quick, then, to dive off the Marxian cliff? "Corporate interests"? You and I are them, and they are us. The answer SCREAMS at all of us, even the class-warfare jackasses who pretend to support "the people": STOP TAXING CAPITAL FORMATION!! That kind of taxation sucks the blood of every honest worker and their family. It weakens us, leading to insane terrorist wars against us. It supports the election of charlatan after charlatan who promises to "make the big guys pay", and then finance Ponzi schemes for an electorate kept ignorant by the propaganda of those same charlatans. Workers of the world, rise up and break your chains! ABSLUTELY!! Vote out every SOB who's ever tried to defraud your family by using the words "Social Security Trust Fund". Get rid of the thieves who spend their time trying to tax your job and childrens' future away. And when you feel exhausted, and want to just sit back and listen to the poison spewed out by Carville/Schrum/Greenberg and their ilk, remember the immortal words of Bismarck: "The best feature of a democracy is that the people get exactly the government they deserve."...