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To: eCo who wrote (72039)	2/20/2002 2:10:09 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 275872

Point taken, but Hammer's SpecInt will be comparable to McKinley (at the very least). I'll believe the McKinley performance projections over the vapor guesses for hammer anyday. McKinley is shipping to customers today. EP

To: eCo who wrote (72039)	2/20/2002 2:16:34 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

fyodor and eco re: Sure, but then this (McKinley) isn't a 100 dollar chip addressing a sub $2-3k market ;-) There is no doubt in my mind that that is what intel is considering to do. Can anyone explain huge capacity buildup and talks of 65nm even before 130nm is in place. Even Elmer finds Intel's capacity buildup strange and we are talking about intel head-fudster here :-)) Intel is not going to support ia32 and ia64 both for long time. Just my 2c Regards -Albert ps Intel may divert the emphasis away from ia64 but that is another matter

To: eCo who wrote (72039)	2/20/2002 4:49:11 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 275872

eCo: Point taken, but Hammer's SpecInt will be comparable to McKinley (at the very least). On top of that respectable baseline performance, how many Hammer's can you fit into that same budget? In order to equal multi-way McKinley performance, you'd have to go with a Hammer cluster. The problem with that is that clusters are just simply not as stable. This likely won't be a problem for most university settings, but for mission critical apps, it might well be worth it to go with something different. In the end, remember the Enterprise Customer survey that Milo posted recently (original from fool.com): 1. Reliability 2. Quality of Service and Support 3. Performance 4. Total Cost of Ownership 5. Compatibility with existing systems 6. Scalability 7. Reputation of Vendor 8. Ease of Administration 9. Initial Purchase Price 10. Interoperability in Multiplatform Environments (Source: Message 17052691 ) -fyo