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Strategies & Market Trends : Zeev's Turnips - No Politics -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: The Freep who wrote (31493)2/20/2002 8:04:39 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 99280
 
i keep saying,no one listens:)--watch the VIX RSI as that washes out the "was it 26 or was it 37?" Regards the complacency because portfolio looks better because of panic selling.Barton Biggs has consistently thrown out a figure that states over 50% of investors just watched their portfolios dissolve and never sold.He states,in his opinion,until they get flushed out market can't stabilize and we will not have achieved it's bottom.
Looking at Trailing P/E graph of SPX500 from 1991 to now,mindblowing.We make 1996 look like the depth of a depression market. P/E wise, we are at alltime highs for wild optimism and floor jumping irrational exuberance.
In short, extreme complacency OR extreme denial.



To: The Freep who wrote (31493)2/20/2002 9:44:04 PM
From: exp  Respond to of 99280
 
Freep: Good arguments, however, IMO high VIX in Sep 01 WILL NOT prevent a new low on SPX simply because it WILL NOT be necessary to match that high VIX when we go to a new SPX low. Zeev, for example is calling for DOW to go below 7500. This will almost automatically result in a new SPX low below 945 of Sep 01. The very high VIX levels are caused by the rapidity of a decline, i.e. very large numbers of puts are bought in a period of, say, several days at prices rising parabolically. With declines occurring over longer time periods you will not see such extreme levels of VIX in the absence of an unexpected event/market collapse yet lower lows may occur nonetheless.



To: The Freep who wrote (31493)2/21/2002 5:48:29 AM
From: Justa Werkenstiff  Respond to of 99280
 
Freep: Re: "Anyway, from my point of view, comparing what the VIX was at the last time the market was at a certain price doesn't make for an apples to apples comparison."

Assuming both apples are sold in a bear market, it is and has served as a warning sign.