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To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/21/2002 1:53:47 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Thank you Taliban Daschle: GOP widens lead over Dems for House control: ....Among registered voters, however, the margin is 47% to 43% in favor of the Republicans. These numbers are little changed from a month ago, when Republicans enjoyed a lead of 46% to 43% among registered voters. In that Jan. 11-14 poll, however, the GOP lead among "regular" voters -- people who are currently registered to vote and indicate they have voted in the past two federal elections, and who thus are more likely to actually turn out to vote in the November election -- was seven points, 49% to 42%, enough to virtually guarantee the Republicans continued majority control..... gallup.com So, if you extrapolate, the GOP has a 50%-42% lead among "regular" voters.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/21/2002 1:54:30 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

This is a follow up from your CNN link: europe.cnn.com I understand from media reports it was sort of a white powder, like a container with white powder, and people who know about this chemical also say that it is a chemical that is extremely dangerous, mainly because it is very difficult to detect, and very difficult to smell. If you put this powder, this composite, in water, you won't be able to see it, you won't be able to smell it, you won't be able to taste it, if you drink the water. So therefore, investigators here are very concerned about what exactly the suspects had been arrested with and what they were going to do with this kind of powder. As you said, they had also been found with the map of the city of Rome with the U.S. Embassy circled, and they also had a map of the underground water system .... So those suspects had the very latest information about where to hit, if indeed they wanted to hit the water main here.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/21/2002 1:58:56 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

This is from the LA Times article you linked. You are liar: There were conflicting accounts, however, about whether the contents of the powder-filled bag could have harmed anyone. The bag, said to weigh nearly 9 pounds, was seized from a suburban Rome apartment Tuesday in a 4 a.m. police raid that rousted the suspects from their sleep. Italian officials told the U.S. Embassy that the bag apparently contained potassium cyanide, easy to buy in Italy and commonly used by farmers to kill rodents. Nine pounds of potassium cyanide dissolved in a few thousand gallons of water or less could be lethal to anyone drinking it, according to Rome University pharmacologist Luciano Caprino.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/21/2002 2:04:38 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Before you object, you did not report the confusion about the substance, nor the comments about how even potassium ferrocyanide can be deadly in a gaseous form, nor the comments about how deadly potassium cyanide would be if it were that. You have often misrepresented the content of an article you had linked, but this was the worst, to score a cheap point.......

To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/22/2002 12:11:48 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769667

Your response: the suspected terrorists were in possession of 4 kilos of a product with a cyanide base....The 4 kilos could have caused a massacre, according to the Italian press That wouldn't be Murdock's Italian press, would it? Authorities said the substance is potassium ferrocyanide, a chemical compound used in winemaking and gardening. europe.cnn.com. Later, Italian Chief Prosecutor Salvatore Vecchione said judicial police had tentatively identified the bag's contents as potassium ferrocyanide. That compound, used to make wine and ink dye, contains small amounts of cyanide and is harmless when dissolved in water, pharmacologist Caprino said. latimes.com

To: TigerPaw who wrote (229589)	2/22/2002 12:20:14 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

To finish, this is what you left out of your original CNN quote: Authorities said the substance is potassium ferrocyanide, a chemical compound used in winemaking and gardening. The compound can form toxic gases if heated to a high degree or mixed with hot, concentrated acids. And this is from the LA Times piece you linked: Last year, police dismantled what they called an Al Qaeda cell near Milan and arrested seven Tunisians, who are now on trial on charges of criminal association with intent to obtain and transport arms, explosives and chemicals. In wiretapped conversations before their arrests, the defendants spoke cryptically about an unspecified "liquid" that would suffocate anyone breathing it. QED