To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (11091 ) 2/21/2002 5:09:56 PM From: Frederick Smart Respond to of 28931 Ecstatic Primal Emotional Insanities.... >>1. Add bloodlust to the list of ecstasies. The killing frenzy is a primal emotional state which offers a uniquely ecstatic vantage. Hinduism recognizes this in the divine aspect of Shiva the destroyer. It's reality and power in nature and in the human experience cannot be denied.>> To be perfectly fair and equal perhaps a mirrorred list of all the above is in order. Side 1 would be a list of Primal Ecstasies. Side 2 would be a list of Spiritual Ecstasies. Primal corresponding to "natural" which is love of self and this world. Spiritual corresponding to heaven which is love of our Lord God in Heaven and the neighbor as oneself. So primal-natural would correspond with thoughts, energies smells, sights and actions that conditionalized, define, label, limit in order to possess, control, consume and claim the energy, light and Love found in others. And spiritual-heavenly would correspond with thoughts, energies, smells, sights and actions that freely receive, share, give, serve and support the energy, light and Love of our Lord God in Heaven in all of it's unconditionally infinite glory which is His of Kingdom of Heaven. Side 1 equates to insanities which are perversions and destroyers of truth which manifest hatred and lead to death Side 2 equates to infinite truths which conjoin with goodness to manifest His Love and awaken us to Life. But then again, for those who don't believe in the existence of good and evil perhaps Shiva Rules. It's all up to each individuals freedom to chose based on what they will to love when conjoined with what they understand as being true. Loving evil is an expression of will. And our Lord permits this express so that the condition for His perfect Love which is freedom can be freely received, shared and celebrated. It's your draw Bill.... Smile! 119293!!