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To: Math Junkie who wrote (1142)	2/21/2002 10:18:23 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 6945

. It's a desperate tactic, borne of a conviction that they cannot win any other way. For most armies, it would be a desperate, last-chance tactic. Most armies would have to overcome a certain reluctance to order their men on suicide missions or to deliberately target civilians. The Islamists have no such reluctance. It is their ideology to embrace death in jihad, not to preserve the lives of their soldiers. And their spiritual advisors have published fatwas which make all Israelis (all Westerners for that matter) legitimate targets. So I think it's a preferred tactic, one that they think is a winner for them. Actually, not only is it difficult to stop, but it is a real plus for them PR-wise. That's why the word 'desperate' is inappropriate. This is a tactic of first resort, not last resort.

To: Math Junkie who wrote (1142)	2/22/2002 2:09:13 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6945

Do you think they are teaching little girls to become suicide bombers out of desperation? Jihad for Kids February 4, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Children's Club -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It’s a show that won't make the Saturday morning lineup on any American network. But it has had a prominent slot on Palestinian TV. The program lacks the same slick production value of an American children's show, but it's just as influential. It's called The Children's Club. FOX13 Investigative Reporter Glenn Selig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Girl singing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It comes complete with puppet shows, games, songs and a very chilling message about becoming a suicide bomber. A little girl sings in Arabic about her ultimate ambition in life. (Song Translation) “Oh sing my sister constantly about my life as a suicide warrior.” Another girl screams about preparing to die. Teaching to hate -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Song Translation) “I foresee my death, but I march quickly. Am I afraid? Life has little value because I'm returning to my lord and my people will know I am a hero.” That message is repeated again and again in song and verse. (Song Translation) “I will come at the time of drought with my best efforts bring a machine gun, violence anger, anger, anger...” The children, most of them elementary school age, shout a message of violence. “I will return with the dawn of tomorrow. It is my conviction of launch a jihad.” Girl shouting a message of violence -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Song Translation) “When I wander into Jerusalem, I'll turn into a suicide warrior in battle dress, in battle dress, in battle dress.” A teacher cheers them on, “Bravo, bravo, bravo.” If you're like most Americans, you had no idea that the show existed, but the Children's Club is no secret to Israelis. “I am still shocked every time I see it,” says Hela Crown-Tamir who lived in Israel for 19 years. “Imagine a teacher telling them bravo, "Crown-Tamir says, "because they're going to grow up to be a militant Islamic suicide bomber.” Hela Crown-Tamir -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crown-Tamir moved back to The Tampa Bay area to escape the violence that ruined her travel business. She says Americans are just now waking up to the realities Israelis have been facing for years, that children are trained as suicide bombers. Because it's so dramatic, some Israeli groups have used excerpts from The Children's Club to produce a campaign against Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat. But are Palestinian children really educated this way? Or is this just an Israeli propaganda tool? We contacted several Islamic groups in the Tampa Bay area, but no one from any of those organizations would even agree to watch the tape. Professor Abdelwahab Hachiche -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But University of South Florida professor Abdelwahab Hachiche did agree to watch it. “I always keep a reasonable degree of skepticism about anything I see or anything I read.” Hachiche is an internationally recognized expert on Mideast terrorism. He's also an Arab and a Moslem. Until we gave him the tape, he'd never heard of the show. And while he says he has no idea who produced it, he says the translations are accurate and the problem is real. “And the indoctrination and the danger of indoctrination is very, very serious.” Dr. Hachiche calls this kind of teaching nothing short of infanticide. But he hopes children growing up in today's Islamic world will ultimately reject these messages of hatred. “On both sides the younger generation are looking for true leaders who will have the courage to overcome this passion that is leading to mutual destruction.” wtvt.com Still, in the mid-east the violence continues. And now even in America we're looking terrorism right in the face-- listening and wondering if this is the voice of the future.