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To: tekboy who wrote (19580)2/22/2002 2:01:28 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
His sources tell him that most people in the administration other than the hardcore neocons realize the "axis of evil" line was a big mistake. It was stuck in by the speechwriters, hardliners, and the President, who didn't realize it would be seen as such a big deal.

Didn't realize? I sure hope your guy is totally wrong on this one as it implies a very worrisome level of obliviousness. Did everybody in the White House have amnesia about the reaction Reagan got when he called the Soviet Union "an evil empire"? You sure your friend isn't projecting his wishes onto the situation?

If President Bush didn't mean any change of policy on Iraq, then he's certainly been talking loudly and carrying a very small stick. My impression of Bush has been that he is politically disciplined, limits his initiatives, and stays on-message. I expected mistakes due to inexperience and an oil company-centered worldview, but not due to big talk and unfocused rhetoric.



To: tekboy who wrote (19580)2/22/2002 4:56:37 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi tekboy; My instincts side with your buddy #2. When Reagan made his "evil empire" speech it wasn't to signify a change in policy, he was simply calling it what it was.

But at the time, it was also a big brouhaha.

-- Carl



To: tekboy who wrote (19580)2/22/2002 5:16:52 PM
From: SirRealist  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Well, since GWB has already publicly said he has no plans to invade North Korea, he's either going to be accused of tossing in NK to make it not look like a holy war, or he's gotta back off one or two of the others.

I never believed he intended to go after Iran, so Iraq remains the open question.

When I first heard Axis of Evil, I immediately thought of his 'crusade' gaffe, because of its historic inappropriateness. I think the phrase was intended to give good sound bite and it wasn't thought through.

With the initiative of peace out of SA, I think the key to Iraq rests with the Cheney/ Saudi meeting... if the Saudis are opposed, we won't go to Iraq.... I also think Russia's hands are in this, too, because of its financial ties to Iraq.

The GWB motto: "Rattle a light sabre and carry a big mouth."