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To: thames_sider who wrote (19594)	2/22/2002 12:26:08 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

And what if there is a problem - the store owner is on the front line, after all, and he might even know the situation better than the new DA... the second approach pretty well guarantees that the storekeeper isn't going to say 'hold on, consider these facts first please'. 'With me or against me' is a great sound-bite but absolutely dire in the real, non-Aristotlean world. The store owner will still say 'consider these facts please', but first he will say 'I'm with you.' In the real, "non-Aristotelean world", gaining any traction against a real, pervasive threat requires a stronger counter-threat. Cops and DAs do not conduct all their business with nuanced considerations of all the facts; they have the power of the state behind them and they use it. In the international arena, that means that diplomacy to be effective must be backed by the credible threat of military force.