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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gao seng who wrote (230028)	2/22/2002 2:25:22 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Just to give a different POV on that point of Carter and the CIA: "news of the "October Surprise" came out -- the allegation that the CIA and the Reagan election committee conspired to delay the release of American hostages in Iran to ensure Carter's defeat in the 1980 elections" washington-report.org "Some claim involvement by CIA agent Donald Gregg, then a Carter administration national security aide and subsequently Vice President George Bush's chief of staff. Gregg, now US ambassador to Korea, says he was on vacation at a Delaware beach throughout the time period involved. He refused to be interviewed by the "Frontline" producers" Carter was played both ways, in Afghanistan, as just one example : "Between 1979 and 1991, the United States and a few foreign collaborators spent some $7 billion on the Afghan program, much of it to buy arms. The money also helped train 80,000 fighters, including radicals from the Middle East who came to join the jihad against the Soviet Union. " "The covert arming of the mujahedin began under President Jimmy Carter, who argued that Russian control of Afghanistan threatened the Arabian Sea, the oil lifeline of the West. U.S. Army Intelligence took the lead role, as the CIA was still reeling from revelations about its involvement in the coup that brought Gen. Augusto Pinochet to power in Chile, its attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro and its illegal spying on U.S. citizens." It is certainly ruled by despots, with our help. It would have been ruled by despots, with Soviet help. Then the Soviets go out of business... as a direct result of overextension and a failed political model. The point is - we could have and should have kept our powder dry. Instead of mucking about with backroom black ops deals that always are involved with domestic political motives, one way or the other, either to benefit oil interests (whether they be considered legitimate or not) or outright election-rigging. The black bag stuff is deviant and dangerious to the democratic process. The only way we "belong" in foreign countries is through the front door, in the open, fully accountable, fully transparent, proud-to-be-American way.