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To: unclewest who wrote (19618)2/22/2002 6:05:30 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
Well, you could open up a decent dictionary and look it up for yourself. I am looking at my Webster's Third International, the big sucker, at definition 12a: for axis "an agreement entered into by two or more countries to demonstrate their solidarity of interest and to insure a common front and mutual support to foreign policies", also definition 13: "any agreement of two or more in a common objective: PARTNERSHIP, ALLIANCE".



To: unclewest who wrote (19618)2/22/2002 6:10:29 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Actually coodinating an attack? You're correct.

However, Japanese and German naval officers were attempting to work out a plan where the Japanese would invade and conquer Madagasgar, effectively cutting off British reinforcements to Egypt.

sonic.net

I believe the attack on Pearl Harbor prevented any further exploration of increasing military cooperation between the Axis partners.

Hawk



To: unclewest who wrote (19618)2/23/2002 10:04:19 AM
From: SirRealist  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>germany, italy and japan...there was very very little coordination between those three<<

They were allied, if not coordinated. North Korea is allied with Nobody. Iran & Iraq recently inflicted more than 3/4 million fatalities on one another. Even were the three to attempt to spit at the same enemy, two would inevitably spit on each other or their own shoes.



To: unclewest who wrote (19618)2/23/2002 6:33:34 PM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
i can't think of a single instance where they coordinated an attack.

The Germans captured a number of Indian troops in North Africa and induced some of them to defect and form an army to liberate India from the British. They attacked India together with some Japanese troops but were defeated.

The Japanese and Germans also exchanged technical data and vital raw materials via long-range freighter submarines.



To: unclewest who wrote (19618)2/23/2002 7:30:45 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
From Historical Re-writes to Modern Renavigation

unclewest,

Re: there was very very little coordination between those three.

The Italians and Germans didn't conduct joint strategy in the early days of WWII? Uncle, I didn't realize how good you could be at fiction writing.

As to the Nazi-Japanese co-ordination, there is the fascinating story of the fateful meeting of two Axis submarines on June 23, 1944 in the mid-Atlantic:

uh.edu

Here's an interesting example of "a little coordination":

"You see, Japan had raw materials, and Germany had technical know-how. In the late days of WW-II, the Japanese loaded the I-52 with 300 tons of the tin, molybdenum, tungsten, and rubber that Germany desperately needed. They meant to buy German technology, and they included more than 2 tons of gold to sweeten the deal."

The wreck of the I-52 was found by Paul Tidwell. Now a rich man. He used renavigation techniques:

nauticos.com

nauticos.com (Lots on the I-52)

Curious readers will find "The Universe Below", by the NY Times Science Writer William Broad to be fascinating:

amazon.com

This is where I first learned about the I-52

All the best, Ray