To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11138 ) 2/23/2002 8:23:33 AM From: Frederick Smart Respond to of 28931 Mars.... >>Fredrick .... if you wish to see the light ... wake up at dawn . (but don't curse any Fig trees <g>) ;-) Mars >> Your piece was wonderful. I will respond to it in greater detail later. And, yes I don't have a habit of cursing Fig trees - proof being that they're extremely rare in this part of the world. I might run into one in the Field Museum downtown and bump my head in which case you might hear some cursing, but other than that I'm not that knowledgable about their whereabouts. As for the existence of "Hell" you can put any lable you want on it, but for us to have freedom through the blessings of the divine soul which possesses a "free will" the conditions have to exist for there to be a choice between one or the other roads - goodness/light/love vs. evil/darkness/hate. If we want to claim these roads for ourselves then, of course there is no Hell and at the same time there is no Heaven. For all simply is God from which all is derived. And when Love of Self assumes this position - the position of our creator - we get around having to deal with these seemingly childish imaginings of these roads and all the "little nasties", etc. Thus, the world and universe becomes "our/my" oyster!! God is simply taken for granted for we've left Him outside our egoic homes of illusion. But I'm not coming from a Wizard of Oz Castle in the sky for I'm not claiming to come from such a grand, sweeping mountaintop. I'm here simply as you are, as we all are - as ONE individual who acknowledges 1) all that is good and light and love as coming from God our creator who is inside ALL of us and 2) all that is bad and darkness and hate as coming from spirits and things that are NOT "of GOD" our Lord Father in Heaven. If the word "hell" upsets you and others it's use is not meant to. For I cannot judge for I am not God. I'm a receptical of God's light, energy and Love as we all are. I freely receive and share and give Him ALL credit for all that is good, light and love. Mankind has such a pricky problem with "hell" for the truth of it's existence exposes the egoic LIE which seeks to cover up this truth which is simply separation from our ONE Lord God in Heaven. These truths are really very simple and, as such, yes they ARE childlike - perhaps even childish is good word - in nature. But as we grow older children and "the child in us" are to "be tolerated" for these spirits really get under our egoic skin. Perhaps that's why our Lord proclaimed "the children shall lead." We are all ONE Mars!! Whether heaven or hell or anything in between, since God is in ALL of us, the truth is that we are ONE. Perhaps I'll have more, but thanks for sharing. 119293!! BTW: like finding figs trees here in Chicago my attempts sounding a german accented "Fredrich" have come to naught.... Fredrick is a nice middle ground -saves sounding the "er". Peace!