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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11160)	2/24/2002 8:20:49 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

Finland is Beautiful.... >>Hell is in Finland First go back to the beginning and the Christian persecutions of the Hellenes & pagans ....the Jews came next and was relentless thru the centuries . Give them God & the lamb Jesus , or give them Hell on Earth ... a self-fullfillinging ugly fantasy . Interesting way to start a Religion of love and peace .... Christian persecutions against the Hellenes. (Summarised from Vlasis Rassias' book "DEMOLISH THEM..",>> Mars: Finland is an incredibly beautiful country with wonderful people who are filled with a love for family, nature and simple things such as singing, dancing and having fun!! My son, Frederick, and I were in Finland for 2 weeks this past June in and around the Turku and Finland archipelago area sailing, hiking, singing, swimming and taking saunas with some good friends of mine who were gathered for a wonderful ceremony for my goddaughter and her religious friends in the oldest worship structure in Finland, the Turku Cathedral. As for these Christian persecutions, it looks like you have taken it upon yourself to play God as we all can do. The early Christians were persecuted terribly, too, but I don't see you granting any coverage of this at all. But it's all insane so what's the point? Do you seek to go back and redress these wrongs? Do you want all this to be fought out and resolved in today in the same manner? Dragging these examples onto this thread for such one-sided consideration leads me to believe you are claiming that this is what Christianity is all about - wars, hatred, killings, persecutions, torture, etc. From where I sit, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Good News of the Gospell. For war has nothing to do with Love. The Love of our Lord transcends all this crap. It fills every crack and brings together all that divides and separates for His Love is full of abundant mercy and forgiveness. For our ONE Lord God in Heaven is in us, with us, by us and for us ALWAYS!! And this is regardless of whether we are with Him, by Him, for Him or in Him. So there's really nothing at all to get upset about anymore. The spirit of His perfect Love is calling us all to Him. And it makes no difference how disconnected and divided and sepated and bad we've been. For there isn't a sin that cannot be removed when we allow Him to install His perfect will and order above our Old depraved will that could only attempt to define, claim, factor and control things. It's time for all of us to come back to earth and live!! 119293!!

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11160)	2/25/2002 9:55:50 PM
From: Graystone	Respond to of 28931

Begiknowings or Project Self The contrast between here and there is very clear when you consider the nature of the projected self. Here you are NOT, you do NOT exist, you do NOT breathe, you do NOT "think therefore you are" ... here, that is all there. The first breathe there is the unconscious action of an autonomous system, here you have no first breathe, no breathe at all. There, the rhythm of exhalation and inhalation is controlled through an autonomous system, here, you only exhale and you can hold your breathe till you are quite dead, it is easy, look around. Genesis there is a mystery, here it is a clear process with no ambiguity at all. The beginning is different for every projected self. We carry our beginnings with us and use them as engines to drive down memory lane.