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To: SirRealist who wrote (19934)	2/25/2002 9:31:55 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

>>the principal base of US ethnicity then was German. Was there something in the cultural nature of Germans that leans fascist?<< I am not aware of any study of the genealogy of the memberships of proto-fascist organizations and the KKK but that's a very interesting question. >>The Communist revolution and the labor movement & anarchists all were a threat to the capitalistic power bases of the robber barons and elites of that era. Could they have had undue influence over the media and the status quo bodies (prosecutors, courts, etc) that helped foster the anti-'Other' sentiments?<< The middle class felt threatened, too, maybe more threatened, because their status was far more precarious than that of the entrenched elite.

To: SirRealist who wrote (19934)	2/25/2002 9:55:40 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

--the principal base of US ethnicity then was German. Was there something in the cultural nature of Germans that leans fascist? We are talking about the 20s right?? At that point, the principle basis of US ethnicity was still that ever lovin wasp stuff. Not now. If you meant immigrants, and you were excluding the wasps from the immigrants, I don't think so. I don't know the numbers but you were using state of origin as ethnic status, I would guess that Italy, Ireland, East European countries, etc., would be as large, counting separately, as Germans. Would be interesting for someone to dig up the actual numbers. But those numbers will get very complicated in a very big hurry. Who is from where? How long have they been here to count as immigrants? Etc. As for the "cultural nature" of Germans, that's a new one. One might argue that Germany had a certain political tradition, or that Germany had a certain form of high culture, but a "cultural nature"; I'm lost. John