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To: JohnM who wrote (19976)	2/25/2002 3:21:14 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You're just much too jumpy, sensitive, need to get another beer, something. Naah, I just need to get back to the beach, John. It is about 10:20AM over here, and still a little cloudy. Pretty soon, I will walk a block to the beach, pat the "Dukes" statue on the Butt, and then spend the rest of the day at Waikiki admiring the latest in thong Bikinis.

To: JohnM who wrote (19976)	2/26/2002 2:12:44 AM
From: SirRealist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>there are other, far more significant, reasons for an increase in race hatred (though I'm not at all certain you are right on that point) and the most prominent among them has been the willingness of the Republican Party via its alliance with the rabid right to give far too much credibility to race hate talk.<< Having travelled extensively throughout the US over the past 30 years, I see much less race hatred. Parts of the most rural areas of some southern states and a few isolated pockets up north display a continuation of hatred, but they seem far less than what I observed in the Seventies. There is a greater amount of verbal denigration going on in certain quarters, that is mostly political. Republicans are frustrated with the bloc voting of blacks and seem to think trotting out the ghost of Abraham Lincoln should change their minds. Democrats get frustrated with similar bloc voting by the Cuban-American community in South Florida. And many on both sides get annoyed by simplistic race-card players (Sharpton, Jackson) and race-baiters (Helms). But the numbers of lynchings have diminished considerably, and race riots. The only place where I can see an increase is towards Middle-Eastern folks (or them what looks kinda Ay-rab), which is more fear than outright hatred, for the vast majority of Americans. That's usually not racism; it is a survival instinct.

To: JohnM who wrote (19976)	2/26/2002 2:52:18 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Race hatred... the willingness of the Republican Party via its alliance with the rabid right to give far too much credibility to race hate talk. John, the Bigots on the right, center, and left of the White race have always been there. But there are less of them, and the ones left are being a lot more quiet than they were in the '50s and '60s, because of the success of the Civil Rights movement. The failure, IMO, is due to the Leaders of the Black movement doing two things: 1) Insisting on only dealing with people in groups by race. 2) Saying that everything left to be accomplished is due to the white man holding the black man down. I place a lot of the blame today on the White, Patronizing, Left in this country that agrees with and inflames the "White Guilt" Politics of people like the Black Caucus. As I have said before, I believe that the only way out is to treat people as MLK wanted, as individuals, not as groups.