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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11215)	2/26/2002 3:22:36 PM
From: Grandk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Well, in response to Jonathan Edwards tongue lashing I would point to Christ in the Scriptures. The times He pointed His finger and called down condemnation on others was against the Saduccees and Pharisees of His time. The leaders of the synagogues who had no love within their hearts and yet claimed to speak in the Name of the Lord. Their evil ways were viewed as Christ to be the most devious of crimes. He called them children of the devil. Pretty harsh words. I would have to say that this is still a very big problem within the church. Men who set themselves up to be righteous and yet have little of the truth of Christ within. Christ's love was felt by every sinner whom He came in contact with. For Christ said that He came not to condemn but to save. In light of this I would have to question first and foremost who Edward's audience is. Who is he addressing? If he is addressing those who do not know Christ, then I would say his approach is flawed because as a child of God we are to put on the breastplate of love and righteousness, not condemnation and justice. However, I cannot go against the Word of God when it does speak on Hell awaiting all who do not except Christ as their Lord and Savior and expiation for sins. Why Edwards chose to focus on this part of the gospel is beyond me. As for me, I chose to focus on Christ and His love flowing through me into the lives of others to somehow emulate Christ and His character so that through me, men and women may see who He truly is and desire to come to Him and have a relationship with Him.

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (11215)	2/26/2002 5:51:00 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Read some Swedenborg.... >>* Have the times changed ? Let's hope so. very heavy stuff this everlasting Hell crap, i mean "stuff" pardon..but the way was ever steep and narrow I guess and there be sea~dragons and monsters awaiting in some lake of fire somewhere . Uh huh....not. non plus ultra ( not more beyond ) >> Emanuel Swedenborg had tens of thousands of direct personal experiences throughout the heavens and all the hells. He documented everything he saw and heard with the dispassionate diligence and precision of his years and years of mathematical and scientific training. Hate to dissappoint, but.... Hell exists! Hell happens!! Also don't want to distract you, but.... Heaven exists! Heaven happens!! Both are as real as the sun coming up in the morning and going down in the evening. Throughout nature you will find millions and millions of things that directly correspond to the physical and spiritual realities of energies that proceed forth from Hell and Heaven. All that is good, loving, merciful, forgiving, beautiful, sweetsmelling, wonderful and musical and artistic comes from Heaven which is where the Light, Energy and Love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven is freely received and shared in the matrix of ONE Spritual Sun of Light and Love.which is the source of all truth. All that is bad, awful, unloving, unmerciful, unforgiving, ugly, foulsmelling, vain, disconcerting and perverted comes from the Hells which is where the Light, Energy and Love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven is conditionally claimed, inverted and controlled into the matrix of ONE Black Hole that acts like wormwood, eating, clawing, taking, enslaving, lying, cheating, stealing and full of anger and hatred. Yep! Hell and Heaven exist!! And we don't have to get all caught up in our shorts. Jonathan Edwards et. al. were receiving energy, light and Love from our Father in Heaven just as we do today. How it get's received and shared is the only point that matters. For the Kingdom of Heaven is already here! And His light Energy, Light and Love shining more and more and more and more and more all across our wonderful world! 119293!!