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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (231733)2/27/2002 3:18:48 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769670
 
Whew! I thought that communism was dead....



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (231733)2/27/2002 4:03:07 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
So if you don't like the way they are handling things fire them. Duh.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (231733)2/27/2002 4:53:10 PM
From: DavesM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Ray,

re:"According to Business Week, the average CEO made 42 times the average blue-collar worker’s pay in 1980, 85 times in 1990 and a staggering 531 times in 2000

Does that number include Stock Options?



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (231733)2/28/2002 11:05:33 AM
From: DOUG H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Raymond,

I don't recall saying employee theft was the greatest problem facing America and I KNOW you did not see me type it either. I guess in your world there is NO other subject than CEO/Bush bashing but some of us think of other things.

To be fair to you, you have been critizing CEO chicanery/ vaporware puffery/ WS investment bankers bagholder recruiting practices and the like for years. This is nothing purely political for you. (IOW, you're not on this tangent because your friend Bush is in the White House). I'm sure your impressed with the deftness with which McCaliflower, of DNC fame exited with his $18,000,000.

Regarding CEO compenastion my feeling are mixed. While the sums these guys make are indeed obscene, a few thoughts arise. If these pay schemes are this juicy and their jobs are so easy, why don't others take the job?? Our society has become a jealous one in which many elect to sit around pining about what others have instead of putting their shoulder to the grindstone and doing the work they need to to be successful.

The selling began in 1999, selling from obscene heights that your pals here sem to think were warranted here and sustainable if only AlGore the Votewhore, had been elected.

Indeed the clinton Bubble was one of the greatest wealth transfer schemes ever. Did you get the McCaliflower memo saying it was time to get out?



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (231733)2/28/2002 11:37:13 AM
From: DOUG H  Respond to of 769670
 
Ray, A couple of quick thoughts. Employee theft is semingly insignificant to everyone but the employer EXCEPT for the fact that these losses get passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices overall, same with minimum wage. So YOU pay for others averice. I know you're happy about that though.

The abject failure of our public school system to educate our kids, particulary the poor. And the absence of a mother or faher, full time, at home, to raise these kids is of far greater concern for me than whether John Chambers wipes his arse with $100's.

I'd submit it is you who should examine their sense of proportionality. BWDIK, you're the one with the education...