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To: Ilaine who wrote (15825)	2/28/2002 3:07:50 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

No.! I Brazilian mindset to my employers out side. The first line up engineer who kicked started what Siemens calls "localization": The use of local personal to implement telecoms projects!! Before that the locals only did the menial stuff. I went to Nigeria. Stayed there 8 and half years. Kicked the butt -literally and metaphorically of anyone who messed up with me. I use to tell them: "I am not here to make friends. I am here to work." The people who worked with me there are divided into two groups: 50% hate me. 50% love me and would go to hell if I would join the team. I took to Brazil just the cash. Never paid taxes in Germany. I was just PM people to see how much money I should charge to work for a Swedish company in the US. If they pay me the money I asked, I would consider going there to give s few people a run for their money. But again, if the US would be accepting guys like me it means they are really in trouble! LOL

To: Ilaine who wrote (15825)	2/28/2002 3:15:31 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

In my book I write about my first experiences with Germans and Germany: "Siemens manufactures of switching and multiplex equipment in Brazil. It was discovered, that the Brazilians were more efficient and had a better knowledge of the equipment than the Germans’. Due the fact that installation people in Brazil were not trained as good as the Germans, the line up and commissioning specialists were more versed in fault finding. Mistakes in the installation of the equipment forced them to do so. Another factor was that Germany’s telecommunications administration the Deutsche Bundespost (DBP) (the former state-owned German telco) had in the late seventies-early eighties a far more advanced network than Brazil. Brazilian telecoms engineers had to deal with much more problems in a more difficult environment than their German colleagues. In spite of that; productivity of the Brazilian multiplex line up specialists was also higher. Siemens in Brazil was competing with NEC, Ericsson and Philips, whereas in Germany it had the cozy relationship with the DBP. Brazilian line up specialists were more hard pressed for performance. When German engineers were testing equipment for the DBP keep their digital measuring equipment warming up for hours!! This is a relic of past times when analog equipment where built with vacuum tubes and its accuracy depended in the equipment being warmed up for some time. That because they didn't like to work very much!!!

To: Ilaine who wrote (15825)	2/28/2002 3:22:07 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Why I decided to take on an outside job: I dropped out school at the third year of high-school because this school here is not good. But I "ate" books for breakfast. One day I read a book by Peter Drucker (Drucker, P., Managing in Turbulent Times, New York, Harper & Row, 1980)and I thought I should go around a bit. In my book I wrote: "The so-called answers to the global concurrence are nothing less than the industrialized countries running for cover. Author Peter Drucker in his book (Drucker, P., Managing in Turbulent Times, New York, Harper & Row, 1980) put it very clear: “The developed countries can only hope to maintain their standard of living, their standard of education, their leadership position, if they put to work productively the only resource in which they have a distinct advantage: their ability to keep young people in school for long years and to qualify them for knowledge work...For the standard of living of the developed world can also be maintained only if it succeeds in mobilizing the labor resources of the developing world...” COMMENTS: I thought, no one of those idiots are putting me to work for them. I am going out and going do my own thing. So I did. For 18 years. Started as microwave tower rigger. Then Auxiliar of the technicians. After Technician. Then Engineer. And today they can call me whatever they want provided they pay my invoice at month's end.

To: Ilaine who wrote (15825)	3/1/2002 12:39:36 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 74559

I think one positive kind of (e)mmigration is the young people of the Church of LDS having to proselitize for one (two?) years wherever the church sends them. I dont know what they bring back home (a) thank God its over or b) what a wonderful world?) but it is something that simply strikes a positive chord with me. Even saw them in Ljubljana - somber military-kind of hair cut, grey to black suits... -. No wonder Utah has the highest number of languages spoken per capita. dj