To: phillong69 who wrote (10802 ) 3/1/2002 12:32:59 AM From: smolejv@gmx.net Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11051 >>one might be impressed with the strength of that will. << while running the danger of putting too many words and idioms on the index, the will (collective, nationwide, our) smacks dangerously of the will, Hilter fed Germans intravenously some tiime ago - Triumph des Willens etc, its a great movie but still -. >>Clearly there are those that despise civilization as we conceive it, << They despise for sure that end of the stick that has been reaching them, the perverted image I would say. There's nobody, absolutely nobody on this planet, that would not agree that "all men are created equal" etc. I for sure am one. >>most of the Chomskites and their ilk who have made the amazing discovery that there are problems with globalization and economic growth,<< Oh no, here we go again, there's evidently some people who were not created as equal as we were. Will have to go and read some Chomsky to get independent opinion - I need to read his linguistic early works anyhow. On one aspect of German present state of affairs (former DDR and what is happening there) visit DJsCorner:xave.de There's awsome amounts of capital flowing from the west into the east and it will be so for some considerable time to come. back to US: there's been an overwhelming support / identification with US for a month or two after 0911 ("we're all Americans"). And then some elephant came in into the China store and the picture got fuzzy. It just IS, to copycat Jay, a fact. Re GWB - maybe the pope has bad breath, maybe he even picks his nose, he is still the pope. It's not easy to discuss the person without slipping into some larger context, where the arguments get heated and (of course) misunderstood. Like, I would not talk about pope's bad breath to glassy-eyed guy in army fatigues, AMK in one hand and the cross in the other. dj