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To: qveauriche who wrote (114737)	2/28/2002 3:29:16 PM
From: Andrew N. Cothran	Respond to of 152472

Great post, qveauriche, and a great way to reteach historical facts. It is nice to know that sound minds still post on this thread and that they even make a reasonable attempt to "educate" those who think that they know it all but constantly trip up on the facts of the matter. Enjoyed reading your wise and knowledgeable words.

To: qveauriche who wrote (114737)	2/28/2002 4:08:03 PM
From: sal99	Respond to of 152472

qv-- You've captured the essence of why many of us are around here (despite recent and repeated travails). We shall overcome!

To: qveauriche who wrote (114737)	2/28/2002 4:16:45 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Qveauriche, Your post reminded me of a post by the_rich_janitor which I had bookmarked for posterity: Message 13478589 >>>The funny thing about the 3G debate; Maturity tells the story (not necessarily in order)..... The first debate: Will CDMA even work? 2nd Debate: Will anyone besides Korea even deploy CDMA? 3rd debate: Will any major European company ever except CDMA? 4th debate: OK, besides, Ericsson, Nokia, Philips, Siemens and SGS Thompson, will any other Europeans except CDMA? 5th debate: How far behind is US wireless technology behind Europe 6th debate: Will Europe deploy 2.5G or 3G before US? 7th debate: How far behind the US will Europe be in deployment of 2.5G and 3G systems. 8th debate: Europeans: let's debate something new 9th debate: Define 3G? 10th debate: Japan/Europe vs. USA/Korea? 11th debate: Now, Japan vs. itself 12th debate: Europeans trying to figure out which technologies are actually considered 3G 13th debate: WCDMA vs. cdma2000 14th debate; Does QCOM have essential IPR in WCDMA 15th debate: How much essential IPR does QCOM have in WCDMA 16th debate: What will QCOM do about the WCDMA ASIC market 17th debate: How much of the WCDMA ASIC market will QCOM own 18th debate:................ My point is that after listening to these debates over the past few years, I have learned that the people who choose to throw darts at the future, usually end up debating a non-issue and their predictions come back to haunt them. Amazing how these same people never admit defeat and just find a new debate that will not have an outcome for years to come. It's in the earnings you all.

To: qveauriche who wrote (114737)	2/28/2002 8:23:52 PM
From: Stock Farmer	Respond to of 152472

Great post John. And I sincerely hope that one day we can convert you to a bull Well one compliment deserves another. Yours was quite brilliant. And I seriously hope one day to be a bull again. I don't make any money while my view is so bearish, 'cause I'm one of those dumb bears. Not one of the smart CFZ bears who shorts the overvalued pigs (their words)... I have a mental block about selling something I don't own... seems "wrong" to me. Irrationally, I know. Of course, I don't lose any money, but it's much much more fun to watch a portfolio that grows faster than my lawn. So I'd like those days to come again. And believe me I don't hope that the price declines. I just expect that it will. There's a difference. Like hoping to die and expecting to die. Rather profound difference, actually. Which I think a lot of folks on the thread may have misinterpreted. John