To: SirRealist who wrote (509 ) 3/1/2002 6:20:59 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057 Okay, tell me about one person in jail for lying about an adulterous affair. Wrong question. The case was not about adultry, and the defense of Clinton is usually that he lied about sex. Cases where jail time was served for lieing about sex - "The attached case, U.S. v. Johnson, 414 F.2d 22 (6th Cir. 1969 ) at appendix #1 is of some interest as it involves the trial of Jimmy Hoffa in 1965 and a prostitute who claimed to put the "par-taaay" in ex parte. The defendant was a prostitute who claimed under oath that she was hired to "service" two jurors in Mr. Hoffa's trial. When court authorities learned that no such act took place and that Ms. Johnson lied about sex (even when there was no sex) she was tried, convicted and sentenced by the court to three years in prison for perjury for the simple offense that millions of teen-age boys committ every day, to wit, claiming to "get some" where none was gotten. Contrast this person claiming to have sex when none exists and someone denying sex where it existed and ask the common sense question "Which is a bigger wrong on the court, someone bragging about non-existent sex, or someone denying inappropriate sex?" In the legal sense, both are a fraud on the court but the courts have not given a free pass to persons affirmatively lying about sex they've had. Note the case attached in Appendix 2. U.S. v. Umbriaco, 258 F.2d 625 (9th Cir. 1958). In this case, a woman's oral testimony that she did not have sex was found to be false, misleading, but not perjury because the 9th Circuit found that her statements, while a lie, were vague oral answers to general questions. Her answers bear striking resemblance to last year's Clinton follies as Ms. Umbriaco somehow didn't think the multiple occasions that she had sex with men for money counted under the definition of "working as a prostitute." As you know, the strict rules of criminal perjury, the person has to know that the lie is a lie. Note that on remand, the trial court again sentenced her to prison for the less-technical federal law covering false statements under oath."thethirdrail.com In 1982 Pam Parsons, a former coach of the University of South Carolina women's basketball team, sued Time, Inc. for a Sports Illustrated story that accused her of having a lesbian relationship with one of her players. During the trial, Miss Parsons and her 17-year-old alleged lover both denied a sexual relationship. When an eyewitness surfaced to testify that there was such a relationship, the libel trial ended in a verdict for Time. Both Miss Parsons and her lover were charged with perjury. Both pleaded guilty, were sentenced to three years in prison, and served four months. probe.org 115 federal workers in jail for perjury On Oct. 7, Rep. Bill McCollum (R-Fla.), a former military prosecutor, said he had found 115 federal employees in jail for committing perjury during federal court proceedings. In one case, Diane Parker, a postal worker caught lying about having sex with a subordinate, lost her job and landed a 13-month sentence in federal prison after a perjury trial. In another case, Barbara Battalino, a psychiatrist at a Veterans Affairs hospital, lied about having sex with a patient who had sued the hospital. She pled guilty to perjury, received a fine of $3,500 and was sentenced to six months of home detention. apbonline.com So thats 6 right there. I doubt they are the only 4, they are just the first 6 that showed up while searching the internet for a few minutes. Actually I also saw a seventh but since he initated the lawsuit and then perjuried himself about sex to win the lawsuit I didn't count that one. Tim