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To: Paul Engel who wrote (160848)	3/1/2002 4:44:04 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, >What will Clawhammer do to Athlon sales? Clawhammer will be a desktop CPU at launch and only run 32 bit software - and its die size will be bigger than a ThoroDead SOI - yet it will compete with the ThoroDead and the AthyWiper XP. With the Clawhammer only at 1-way, and the 2-way delayed until next year, customers are not going to commit to an entire new infrastructure of headaches - new chip sets, new CPU new motherboards, new DRIVERS , etc. The demand for the ClawHamster may be so miniscule that the DROIDS will be in for a cardiac arrest. Veddddy intedesting. Hadn't thought of that. Like, all dressed up and no place to go. Probability of this happening could be????? Tony

To: Paul Engel who wrote (160848)	3/1/2002 4:49:10 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony - What the MADroids should be doing is asking themselves the following quaetions: --Ooooohhhhh I know..... I know..... let me answer for them..... (Droidopia On) What will Clawhammer do to Athlon sales? Clawhammer will be a desktop CPU at launch and only run 32 bit software - and its die size will be bigger than a ThoroDead SOI - yet it will compete with the ThoroDead and the AthyWiper XP. -- I can't be bothered with any of that logic, because my lord and master JeeryS has told me that P4 is dead and so naturally everything and anything coming from the Temple Of MAD (TOM), is therefore by default the most wonderful thing on earth, and so naturally everyone will buy 2 or 3 of everything, sending MAD stock "To The Moon"..... "SWEET". With the Clawhammer only at 1-way, and the 2-way delayed until next year, customers are not going to commit to an entire new infrastructure of headaches - new chip sets, new CPU new motherboards, new DRIVERS , etc. --Hey.... we don't need no stinkin working infrastructure.... I've seen MAD PowerPoint Presentation Foils.... promises... that's all we need, and that's good enough for me. The demand for the ClawHamster may be so miniscule that the DROIDS will be in for a cardiac arrest. Paul -- Whatca talkin bout.... The MAD "Onslaught", is about to take over the Semiconductor World, and intel is about to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy. (Droidopia Off) -- WHEW...... I just had the most horrible dream. I couldn't see what was right under my nose. Thank God I woke up in time. :-) Semi

To: Paul Engel who wrote (160848)	3/1/2002 5:03:34 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul re: ThoroDead SOI get professional help

To: Paul Engel who wrote (160848)	3/1/2002 5:03:58 PM
From: dale_laroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Welcome back Paul. Oops, didn't notice this was a link to the Intel thread. Gee, I didn't know cross threading was possible. >What will Clawhammer do to Athlon sales? Clawhammer will be a desktop CPU at launch and only run 32 bit software - and its die size will be bigger than a ThoroDead SOI - yet it will compete with the ThoroDead and the AthyWiper XP.< Duh! Thoroughbred is an Athlon XP. >With the Clawhammer only at 1-way, and the 2-way delayed until next year, customers are not going to commit to an entire new infrastructure of headaches - new chip sets, new CPU new motherboards, new DRIVERS , etc.< We don't need no friggin infrastructure. Seriously, it appears that Clawhammer will be as well supported at launch as Socket-A was at the launch of TBird. >The demand for the ClawHamster may be so miniscule that the DROIDS will be in for a cardiac arrest.< AMD is not shooting for high penetration of Clawhammer at 130nm. The 130nm Clawhammer will be essentially a platform development node, much like the original 220nm K7. AMD is however targeting rapid unit sales crossover for Clawhammer versus Athlon XP at the 90nm node, which they plan on reaching in mid-2003. AMD will, in fact, not be able to do major shipments of the 90nm desktop Clawhammer until Q2 2004, forcing them to ship a low unit volume 130nm M4400 Clawhammer instead of a high unit volume 90nm M4400 Clawhammer as planned.