To: bonnuss_in_austin who wrote (20380 ) 3/1/2002 7:56:23 PM From: Hawkmoon Respond to of 281500 What are current immigration criteria? ins.usdoj.gov ins.usdoj.gov ins.usdoj.gov travel.state.gov ins.usdoj.gov But bear in mind that what the criteria actually is, and how well it's enforced differ widely. One only has to look at illegal immigration and how often we're granting blanket amnesty, or finding our welfare and educational system burdened by the uncontrolled influx of relatively unskilled (but certainly highly motivated) workers. And I think the tone you are detecting is the one you choose to hear, not the reality. As for green card holders, I didn't employ them.. their employers hired the services of our investigative firm to advise them on, and perform, loss-prevention procedures. Immigration, imo, is implicit to the discussion of foreign relations, and certainly relevant in times of conflict against terrorists, where everyone finds themselves concerned as to how the perpetrators were able to live here with their purpose ultimately undetected. America is a nation of immigrants.. Unfortunately, where at one time immigrants went to great pains to integrate themselves into American society, more and more we're seeing immigrant communities existing where many have resided in the US for decades, without being able to speak more than the most basic of English (and some no english at all)... If you've ever been to S. Texas, or S. Arizona, you'll find such communities, peopled by hispanic US citizens (not aliens), who have lived here for decades and can't speak a lick of the language. I've personally experienced that. Now I ask you... If you or I were to immigrate to another nation and obtain citizenship, would it not be prudent, if not imperative, that we learn to communicate fluently with other people in that nation? I certainly would feel such a compulsion. In fact, when visiting Latin countries, I feel obligated to speak Spanish to the extent that I still how to do so (I'm getting rusty through disuse). But you can't tell me that we're not seeing the balkanization of the US over the past 20 years. I'm all for preserving culture and heritage, but only so long as the new citizen or immigrant show just as much desire to become an American in spirit, as well as in name. Stepping off my soapbox now.. :0) Hawk