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To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (725)3/1/2002 9:47:18 PM
From: thames_sider  Respond to of 21057
 
We perceive design... in fact, it's not.

In the UK, the red squirrel is being out-performed by the grey squirrel (introduced in Roman times). The former, more choosy about its food and somewhat less robust, is now nearly extinct.
No design. one species is better able to utilise the changing environment - this would have to be the case.

Species aren't 'perfect' - but the ones we see, necessarily, are the ones that have proven better-fitted to their niche than competitors. Wait a few decades and you'll see more changes - no doubt the new species will be even more 'perfect' than their predecessors, until the environment changes again...

Now repeat this thought experiment, a million times over. And add unexpected random change as genes - inherently unstable in most places from their bacterial/viral origins - shuffle and sometimes produce a more viable result... the less useful ones, of course, dying off.
A new generation every 2 years, for small mammals... every few days/weeks, for bacteria. That's BILLIONS of attempts to get things right.

I'm not offended by the word design, btw... just disappointed <gg>



To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (725)3/1/2002 9:53:00 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057
 
That is description, not explanation.

Here is the explanation:

"Success" is living to reproduce.

If you die you can't reproduce.

If your environment changes and you and your kind don't have enough specimens with the genetic characteristics to adapt, and replicate the auspicious genes, your kind goes extinct.

"Perfection" of species is a funny concept. "Perfect" merely means still here, however imperfect.

It's so simple it's tautological.