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To: JohnG who wrote (114963)3/3/2002 1:02:58 PM
From: JohnG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Copied from food fight. Have no personal knowledge here. Typical Barrons effort to print bad news though.

From Barron's, 3-4-02, p 17:

"Investors spooked by unpleasant surprises in companies SEC filings will
want to sell first & ask questions later, he (Chris Wolfe, equity strategist at
JP Morgan Private Bank) said. Firms with a growth by acquisition story such
as Cendant, Cisco or Tyco International or companies that used cash to
create venture arms, such as Intel or Adobe, could come under scrutiny."

In addition to *accounting problems*, Intel has an *Asian Contagion
problem*. As you know, Oracle warned Friday, March 1, after the close &
its stock dropped 12%. Oracle said they would miss previous earnings
estimates this quarter due to the powerful business downturn in Asia.

Oracle only has 13% of its revenues coming from Asia as per their last
earnings report at

www.oracle.com/corporate/investor_relations/Q202AnalystSpdshts.pdf

when you do the proper calculations using their Geographic Revenue
section. *Intel*, however, has nearly *four times* as much exposure to
*Asian contagion* as does Oracle since Intel gets 42% of their revenues
from Asia as per their last earnings report at

www.intc.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20020115corp.htm

The Oracle warning creates an extremely disappointing outlook for tech
stocks going forward. To wit:

This was supposed to be a lay-up. The compares were supposed to be
getting easier ... It's kind of grim," said Mark Verbeck, a principal in the San
Francisco office of ThinkEquity Partners, an investment banking &
institutional research firm.

Also:

Oracle's warning probably will dash hopes for a revival in the depressed
high-tech sector. "This casts a pall over everything," said industry analyst
George Gilbert of Credit Suisse First Boston.

As well as *accounting problems* noted by Barron's above & as well as
having nearly four times as much *Asian Contagion* as Oracle due to the
fact that 42% of Intel's global revenues come directly from Asia, Intel also
has WARNING RUMOR problems. To wit:

4:21 ET Intel rumor (INTC) 33.95 +0.57: -- Update -- We are hearing from
multiple sources that a rumor is flying around the Street that INTC's qtr is
tracking below forecast due to pricing pressure on the P4. We have no
confirmation of this rumor.

Intel is scheduled to give its mid-quarter update *this* Thursday, March 7,
after the close. If Intel warns, like Oracle did due to Asian Contagion (recall,
Intel has nearly 4 times as much exposure to Asian Contagion as Oracle),
then one can expect Intel's
share price to experience a substantial & immediate "evaporation" on the
evening of this Thursday, March 7th, just as Oracle shares experienced
Friday evening after Oracle issued its warning.

Ironically, & also after a huge rally, exactly one year ago on March 1, 2001,
Oracle warned & helped propel the Nasdaq down 500 points in barely 30
days. Oracle's stock dropped as well:

1-Mar-01 21.38
2-Mar-01 16.88
5-Mar-01 17.00
6-Mar-01 17.63
7-Mar-01 18.63
8-Mar-01 17.50
9-Mar-01 16.38
12-Mar-01 15.19
13-Mar-01 16.94
14-Mar-01 16.06
15-Mar-01 14.69
16-Mar-01 14.06
19-Mar-01 15.44
20-Mar-01 14.38
21-Mar-01 14.75
22-Mar-01 15.50
23-Mar-01 15.88
26-Mar-01 15.69
27-Mar-01 16.65
28-Mar-01 15.10
29-Mar-01 14.52
30-Mar-01 14.98
2-Apr-01 15.32
3-Apr-01 13.25
4-Apr-01 13.66
5-Apr-01 14.74
6-Apr-01 13.86

On March 1, 2002, Oracle closed at $15.99 so this price plummet is likely to
carry Oracle stock into the single digits.

Intel, should it also warn this Thursday & prove the rumors true, given its
accounting problems noted by Barron's plus its Asian Contagion, very well
may experience a price reduction far greater than what Oracle is likely to
experience this week, due to the fact that Intel has nearly 4 times the Asian
Contagion of Oracle. c3



To: JohnG who wrote (114963)3/3/2002 3:21:20 PM
From: Jon Koplik  Respond to of 152472
 
Off topic -- Potentially Massive Oil and Gas Find in Tibet

(From :

globalpolicy.org )

(I actually learned about this first from a brief mention in "Parade" magazine) (something that comes along with our Sunday newspaper here) (The Naples Daily News).

(I was amazed that I had not heard about this anywhere else. Has everyone else heard about this already ?)

Jon.

******************************

Potentially Massive Oil and Gas Find in Tibet

Stratfor
September 5, 2001

Chinese researchers have discovered massive new gas and oil deposits totaling an estimated 4 billion to 5.4 billion tons in Tibet in southwestern China, the newspaper China Daily reported. The estimates, though tentative, will likely aid China's attempts to increase foreign interest and investment in its western regions, which in turn will strengthen Beijing's control across the country.

The estimate of the deposits' size is highly speculative, however, and more exploration will be necessary to determine the true volume. Beijing likely exaggerated the total in an effort to encourage foreign companies to invest in oil exploration and infrastructure in western China, as this would aid its controversial "Go West" development program. By attracting more foreign money for the program, Beijing could silence angry voices in eastern China as well as tighten its grip on the western regions.The Qiantang deposits, if estimates are accurate, represent a mother lode of oil and gas. They potentially would attract greater investment from firms such as British Petroleum, ENI/Agip of Italy, ExxonMobil, Gazprom and Stroitransgaz of Russia, and Royal Dutch/Shell. Those companies already are considering participating in a pipeline project extending from the northwestern province of Xinjiang to Shanghai.

The estimated size of the Qiantang deposits stems from geologic age. A field research team from Chengdu University of Science and Technology collected oil shale samples from Qiantang in July 2000, according to the China Daily. Lab research dated the geologic age of the shale at 180 million years, indicating the likelihood of oil in the basin.

Should further exploration prove the government's estimates correct, the Qiantang field would be one of the world's largest petroleum reserves. Four billion to 5.4 billion tons of oil translates to 28 billion to 37.8 billion barrels. By comparison, the world's largest oil field, Saudi Arabia's Ghawar reserve, produces 70 billion to 85 billion barrels. Kazakhstan's Kashagan oil field, another mega-deposit, contains an estimated 10 billion to 30 billion recoverable barrels.

Proving or disproving the government's estimates will take time. But Beijing has several political reasons to announce the possibility of such large oil and gas deposits now.

The Qiantang discovery has the potential to bring in more funding for Beijing's "Go West" scheme. Western China, including disputed Tibet, is a vast, sparsely populated region that has been increasingly left behind by economic success in eastern China. The development project would extend vital infrastructure to Tibet and Xinjiang, where separatist sentiments have erupted.

The program calls for constructing 31,988 miles of new roads, including a 790-mile expressway from Sichuan to
Guangxi, and 2,469 miles of new railroad. One of the railroads will run 600 miles from Golmud, in Qinghai province, to Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, and could cost $3 billion. These projects will coincide with the building of new factories, dams, mining facilities and oil and gas pipelines.

The western development effort has run up against international opposition, however, particularly from pro-Tibetan independence groups. For example, non-governmental organizations and government officials dissuaded the World Bank from granting China a $40 million loan. The loan would have helped to relocate 58,000 Chinese farmers to Tibet's Tsaidam basin.

If Beijing opts to fund the plan domestically, much of the money would have to come from the east because Tibet and its neighboring provinces generate the lowest gross domestic product per capita in China. But sources, including those at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing, confirm that local and regional governments of coastal provinces are increasingly disenchanted with the central government redirecting their tax payments.

The Qiantang discovery conceivably could resolve that problem and others for Beijing. For example, should foreign oil and gas companies choose to exploit the reserve, greater investments -- in roads, technology, grocery stores, schools and hospitals -- would likely follow. That money would relieve the funding burden borne by eastern China and eventually help erase the wealth gap in the west, likely quelling separatist sentiments as well.

Meanwhile, China's lucrative natural resources in the west are gaining international investment and political support,
regardless of the accuracy of its oil and gas reserve estimates in the Qiantang basin. Already, BP has invested $578
million in Chinese oil company PetroChina, and along with ENI/Agip, is aiding its drilling on the Tibetan plateau.

One of the newer planned projects involving foreign companies is a 2,593-mile gas pipeline that will run from Xinjiang,
in northwestern China, to Shanghai. The pipeline will cost around $14 billion. Companies that might participate include
BP, ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, Gazprom and Stroitransgaz.

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