To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (73089 ) 3/3/2002 6:34:08 PM From: wanna_bmw Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 275872 Andreas, Re: "clock-speed alone can't be the right metric to compare the two different architectures." Yeah, I like your link. What's next - SpecInthertz? ;-) Of course, if they added the 2.0A and 2.2 Northwood chips to that graph, they'd definitely see a different picture, don't you think? And then, what about SpecFp? Isn't floating point performance important? Re: "The True Performance Initiative is IMO a step into the right direction." What has the TPI done? They've defined the problem, but has there been any progress on the matter? I haven't seen anything relating Athlon chips to performance by AMD - just added efforts to debunk the megahertz myth. <hint to TPI> We already know that Megahertz is not sufficient. How about going on to the next step, and offer some suggests on what might be better.</hint> But in the mean time, AMD is sticking with QuantiSpeed, which by their own admission is a sub-standard measurement. IMO, QuantiSpeed is even worse than Megahertz, because instead of showing the consumer that megahertz is a bad indicator of performance, QuantiSpeed is instead aligning model numbers with Pentium 4 megahertz, which gives consumers the impression that megahertz is a good measurement, and that AMD wants their products to look like they have more of them. Re: "both AMD and Intel have to work together if they want to establish a new metric that allows to easily compare their processors." I agree that this would be the best solution. However, no matter what the outcome would be from such a collaboration, one processor family would inevitably look better than the other. At that point, I don't think the losing party would continue being cooperative with the effort. wbmw