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To: Terry Whitman who wrote (31359)3/4/2002 11:30:01 AM
From: TechTrader42  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
True enough, Terry.

I think there's a difference, though, between declaring which way the market is going to go, and speculating based on a system that identifies likely trends.

From reading your posts, it's my impression that you don't make confident predictions, and try to defend them, but you make trades based on likely trends.

As for people on public forums who make overconfident predictions (that rarely come true, even with constant revisions), they shouldn't be surprised if a few people don't kneel at the altar rail.



To: Terry Whitman who wrote (31359)3/4/2002 12:31:05 PM
From: isopatch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
Well said, Terry. Could not agree more

To the thread:

The market is about anticipation and making educated guess. That's all any of us can do. I've known and worked with some very successful traders. None of them walk around in biblical robes or carry a crystal ball.<lol>

Nor are they right all the time. Nobody is! All that's necessary is to be on the right side of market trends MOST of the time. And when you're not? Be flexible AND humble enough to admit you're wrong and CUT the loss!!! If you do that, you'll make a great deal of money over the years.

IMHO, the nay sayers don't understand the role of the market in discounting economic and company specific fundamental news in advance and especially how to read the hints and signals market participants give us about likely outcomes. The key word is likely. Forecasts aren't about certainties. I've found most of those who diss forecasting do so because they simply haven't learned what a forecast is.

A forecast is NOT a prediction.

The word prediction carries connotations of certainty and absolute knowledge. There is no such thing in trading. Professionals as well as talented amateurs know that.

By contrast, a "forecast" is an educated guess. An opinion of a likely or probable outcome. That's a VERY different animal from a prediction, Brook.

How long it takes to develop forecasting skill varies depending upon the emotional as well as the cognitive intelligence of the individual trader. Have know people with high cognitive intelligence, but were emotionally inflexible. They took twice as long to reach the skill level of someone with above average cognitive ability who was more emotionally introspective, insightful and flexible so as to more quickly weed out their counter productive attitudes.

IMHO, after many years in this business, it's not all that difficult to be right more than half the time once a person has logged whatever number of years in the trenches are necessary to get rid of attitudes that inhibit and delay the real learning process.

One of the eternal verities of this game is that people are far too impatient. They become discouraged because they expect to learn to read the market in their first few years of trying. When they are unable to do so? Their comments become increasing sarcastic and negative towards those who've been at it long enough to develop the instincts and skills to identify trends and trend changes before the crowd

Again, if you're right more than 1/2 the time and cut your losses when your wrong you'll make a ton of money over a period of years.

That doesn't make you a guru. Just a VERY successful trader.

My posting time is very limited. So anyone, on the thread, who wishes to reply can have the last word<g>

Regards to all,

Isopatch



To: Terry Whitman who wrote (31359)3/6/2002 12:52:16 PM
From: Chris  Respond to of 52237
 
i agree with you 100% with your post
Message 17146776

my parents have money on the line, and take this *business* (not a game) very seriously. My own head is on the platter if I screw up.

I have decided to contribute as best as I can by sharing my thoughts and ideas, and looking to continue...

i have survived 8 yrs already, while many at SI are long gone. (no money)