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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (16135)3/5/2002 4:32:13 AM
From: ig  Respond to of 74559
 
OT: Kasparov Bambluezled

...like Kasparov walked off waving his arms in bamboozlement after defeat at the 'hands' of Deep Blue...

In reality, Deep Blue didn't beat Garry. At that level of play (among humans), psychoanalyzing one's opponent is of critical importance. Garry never quite psyched out Deep Blue because Blue's handlers were constantly tweaking Blue's "psychology" as the match progressed. Blue became a different opponent with each game. Garry never could get to the bottom of it.

A fairer match would be to simply set the machine to do its damnedest and may the best entity win. (Yes, it would be fair to allow the machine to "learn" Garry's ways [which it can easily be programmed to do] so long as there is no intramatch coaching from the machine's conspirators.)

ig



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (16135)3/5/2002 9:21:15 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>The survivors moved to their back-up facility and their cyberspace links didn't miss a beat. It's like attacking a ghost. It's everywhere but nowhere in particular. Cloned, linked and slippery - darting through optical fibres to hundreds of millions of nodes. It can't be hurt.<<

That's a good description of culture, too, especially 21st century Western culture.

Edit: maybe that's what you were talking about. It seems, though, that you are talking about AI.

Maybe it's the same thing.

It would be interesting to know what is actually hard wired into our beings that we are not aware of. I am just starting out with beekeeping. I have two packages of bees on order, to be delivered 3/31/02 or so, and the equipment is arriving now. I am reading up on bee behavior. It is very complex, yet completely instinctive.

I have often wondered whether we have similar "programming" - or at least some of us. I think I belong to the group that is programmed to produce libraries, dictionaries, constitutions, justice, and gardens.