without concrete proof..
A couple of questions:
1) what would the God consist of, in your definition?
2) what would be necessary and sufficient proof?
Something more on the general subject, from Adi Da:
<<<The cults of religion promote and reinforce many childish, naive, and merely symbolic conceptions of the Divine Reality. We must awaken, become responsible for our subhuman ways, and pass beyond ideas about "God" (the Deity of the verbal mind) and become a sacrifice into the Unqualified Transcendental Reality that is the Condition and Destiny of all beings and things.
Just so, the cults of spiritual, mystical, and psychic approaches to the Divine Reality promote and reinforce many childish, naive, and merely symbolic "ways to reunite" with the Divine Reality. We must awaken, become responsible for ourselves, and pass beyond subjective mental and bodily solutions to the conceived problem and illusion of separation from the Real.
Ideas about God, or conceptions of God, as well as methods to return to God, or to reunite with God, are all essentially expressions of a childish, subhuman level of our adaptation and our consciousness. At best, all of that is a beginning, a lesson, a functional design or solution that we must overcome through further growth.
All knowledge and belief about the Reality that is out Condition and Destiny must yield and dissolve in the primal intuitive Realization and humanizing confession of Ignorance. Since we are not in an independent position of knowledge, since we are unable to inspect and know what the Reality or even any ordinary thing is, Unqualified Ignorance is our true mind, and our Ultimate Consciousness in the Real. Abiding in the liberated profundity of Ignorance, prior to all forms of knowledge or objective certainty, is the core of true and higher religion.
Just so, all out efforts to return to the Real, or to reunite with the Divine, are founded in a relatively infantile, subhuman, self-divided psycho-physical condition. And all spiritual, mystical, or psychic methods of return or reunion are merely personal psycho-physical efforts to regain or grow into an harmonious, mature, and more fully awakened psycho-physical condition. What is named or referred to as the Divine Reality attained by such means is nothing more than a psycho-physical condition of the human individual himself, just as the method of attainment was only an expression of a negative psycho-physical condition that needed to be changed.
All efforts of return and reunion with the Real, all attempts to solve the childish dilemma of separation from the Real, must ultimately become obsolete, as we awaken to the Condition that is always already the case and always was the case.
In the Way of Divine Ignorance, all ideas and all knowledge of the Divine Reality, Condition, and Destiny are dissolved in the intuitive depth of irreducible Ignorance. And all strategic methods for returning to the Reality are dissolved in the intuitive re-cognition of the human psycho-physical tendencies that produce and reinforce the illusion of separation itself. Thus, in the full maturity of this Way, there is only direct, radical, transcendental self-releasing intuition of the Condition of the body-mind and all experience.
In this Way, knowledge and belief dissolve in ultimate Ignorance. Just so, self-binding psycho-physical techniques and experiences are progressively inspected and released as unnecessary and deluding habits of existence. In the process of such inspection in practice, the entire "great way of return," the traditional and ancient psycho-physical sequence of methods of transcendental reunion, is fully engaged and ultimately abandoned. Thus, many "yogas" appear in the course of practice in this Way, including karma yoga, bhakti yoga, hatha yoga, mantra yoga, kundalini yoga, ashtanga yoga, tantra yoga, raja yoga, kriya yoga, shabd or nada yoga, laya yoga, jnana yoga, and so forth. But all of these yogas, all these spiritual, mystical, and psychic techniques or responsibilities, are eventually abandoned. The legitimate task of each such approach is the conventional one of awakening a new level of psycho-physical adaptation and awareness. But when this is done, that very state of adaptation or experience must be penetrated and released, or else it will only reinforce the illusions of consoling knowledge, independence, and separation.
There is a Radiant Condition or Consciousness wherein the whole and entire body-mind and all environments of experience are arising as modifications or stepped-down intensities of Itself. The higher or true Mind of Man is that very Consciousness. And it is only Realized when there is transcendence of the limiting force of the entire body-mind. Such is Transfiguration and Translation of the body-mind in the Reality that is its Condition and Destiny.
That Mind or Realization, in which every aspect of the body-mind is first awakened and then yielded, is not Realized through any psycho-physical self-manipulation. It is not attained via any of the yogas or any spiritual, mystical, or psychic techniques of return and reunion-nor via any religious beliefs, or social disciplines, or any kind of knowledge, however scientific or inspired. Only release from all of that-all of which is only a reflection of a problematic psycho-physical orientation or disposition of self-permits the Intuitive Realization of Truth to Awaken. That Awakening is Realized only when the self-division and self-meditation of the functional body-mind comes to rest or release in a total sympathetic or feeling opening. There must be ecstasy, or release of the self, the whole and entire body-mind, into the Condition or Destiny that is intuited only in Ignorance. Only when body and brain become free of contraction, concept, image, and object does the Radiance of the Real stand forth.
Therefore, at every stage of practice in the Way of Divine Ignorance, the conscious process (as bodily prayer and remembrance, enquiry, re-cognition, and radical intuition) is senior to all of the yogic or higher-adapting disciplines that are applied. Through the conscious process, the eye or mind of Ignorance in every moment, the limitations of psycho-physical experience, high or low, in every moment, are penetrated. And, in this manner, Ecstasy in the Real Condition becomes the consistent Realization of the devotee. When the conscious process passes beyond all knowledge and all meditation into Whole Body Enlightenment and Divine Translation, the body-mind as a whole dissolves or is released in Transcendental Ignorance-Radiance, the absolute Intensity that is the Reality, Condition, and Destiny of all and everyone that appears and passes in the Wonder of Brightness.>>>
FROM: The Enlightenment of the Whole Body
Namaste!
Jim |
