To: wanna_bmw who wrote (73654 ) 3/6/2002 3:44:10 AM From: Joe NYC Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872 wbmw, From your chaotic responses (unlike your more organized thoughts on other matters), it seems that this whole subject causes you a lot of discomfort. First you deny that Yamhill exists: #reply-17155899Plan B" is not a fact. It is a rumor I show you interview in The Register with HP executive in charge of IA-64 marketing (in the know) acknowledges existance of Yamhill: #reply-17155981 You come back with a very lame response: #reply-17156006I open up my encyclopedia, and find a blank page under Yamhill. Either it doesn't exist, or it's far out in the future, because something will have certainly leaked about it more than there is now if it were a 2003 "Plan B" technology. Who said anything about 2003? You are basically continuing to deny the existance of Itanium alternative, Plan B, 64 bit extention to 32 bit instruction set. I pointed you back to the article: #reply-17156149 You are parsing the lines: #reply-17156312Sticking to the *direct quote* and the journalist's commentary, I can only deduce that HP's IA-64 chief is aware of some kind of technology that could give extra life to the IA-32 line. He doesn't say it's a 64-bit x86 extension You sound like the Clinton press spokesman, still denying the obvious. I point you to a direct quote, which to anyone in his right mind ties Yamhill to a 64 bit instruction set: #reply-17156312 You respond with a somewhat confused diatribe: #reply-17156802 but for the first time you acknowledge that:Actually, it doesn't take a genius to realize that something doesn't add up. There is more here than meets the eye, yet you are willing to jump to the obvious conclusion. But you don't want to concede the obvious and logical conclusion, since making logical conclusions about existence of Plan B in a public forum increases the probability of failure of Plan A, which is a multi-billion question. The disorganized thoughts / diatribe / attempt to change the subject continues in the next message: #reply-17156887Sounds like the HP exec is ready to throw in the towel, eh? He's really saying that Yamhill is the future - no, wait. He's really saying that Hammer is the future, and to make sure you don't buy their new McKinley based zx1 chipset, because HP will be transitioning to Hammer shortly afterward. Right? I just want to make sure I understand the hidden meaning that everybody else except for me must be seeing from your link. After all, everybody says that Yamhill is Plan B, and that Intel is simply waiting to cancel Itanium. Since this HP exec you mentioned *knows* about Yamhill, and he's willing to give *The Register* an exclusive scoop into the whole dirty business, then he must also be aware of Intel's plans to cancel Itanium if AMD becomes too much of a threat. Therefore, I'm still trying to find the hidden meaning that must be in the above sentence. TIA for any hints you can give. What's the point of all this obfuscation? (rhetorical question, no need to answer it) The message is not hidden any more. Intel has a project under way to add 64 bit extensions to x86-32 (following AMD's lead). It is a Plan B, since you must be aware of the fact that Intel already has a CPU 64 bit instruction set - Plan A. Joe