Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Strategies & Market Trends : Booms, Busts, and Recoveries -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/6/2002 8:13:28 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

However, I do know that the brand of Islam in India, encompassing its 180 mm believers, is of the most docile variety in the world, and as they constitute a minority in the midst of the Hindu mass, it is unlikely that they would deliberately provoke a fight. Jay, it appears that in the latest incident the Hindus share much of the blame... Provocation Helped Set India Train Fire Official Faults Hindu Actions, Muslim Reactions for Incident That Led to Carnage washingtonpost.com

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/6/2002 8:56:59 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>>I am not hostile to India and Indians, nor am I hostile to the Japanese. << Getting out my dictionary here. I don't mean rising to the level of warlike or vitriolic - "marked by lack of friendliness or by opposition." Hard to put my finger on, but you did it for me. Thanks. >>Japan is a demographically doomed nation. Their mistreated women folks do not care to make babies with their overworked, alcohol poisoned, and spiritually polluted men folks. . . . . I think the speed at which Japan will duplicate Britain’s fall into irrelevancy will surprise the world. . . . . No need to learn the language, just as there is little need to study Carthage’s vocabularies<< >>>>Say bye bye to India, a make belief country with ineffective laws, political dynasties, antiquated systems, falsely valued mutual fund, and an unjustified confidence in what they had never managed to do..<< This reminds me of arguing with my husband. OK. It's not hostile. It's very negative opinions. Better? >>Where am I wrong?<< Chacun a son gout. No arguing about taste. >>In the particular case of India, and maybe only India, the Muslims are being attacked, out of the blue, for the most part.<< Don't forget the suicide attack on the Indian Parliament, a couple of months ago. Also Kashmir. I think the US is knocking heads together at the government level but we don't control the masses, and neither do their own governments. No, the PM you quote isn't one of the ones I was thinking of, although it was that same time frame. I was telling you we were tired of keeping the Muslims hemmed in, and maybe you guys should help instead of selling them armaments. I think I also gave you the rap about how we wanted to turn our attention towards Latin America for a change. It seems oddly prescient in retrospect.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/6/2002 9:20:47 PM
From: AC Flyer	Respond to of 74559

Good morning, Jay: >>P.S. This post should generate some controversy, no doubt:0? Come Mike AC Flyer, Maurice, Ray, chime in, lets do it. Elmat, get out here, and do not forget to drag in DJ nilly by the willy.<< Problem is, Jay, I agree with much of what you say. Your points are well thought out and not just derivative, second-rate, goon squad barbarianism. In fact, some of your analysis is downright brilliant: >>I think some countries and folks may have a real problem with the US, but most are OK with the US. The peace is kept, press is amusing, TV shows are entertaining, burgers are addicting, things do go better with coca cola, attitude is straight forward, meritocracy rules most of the time, and dollar is convenient. Most important of all … that crazy Nasdaq has been great. Over all, I think the US is just fine, though some of the quirky stuff can go to the way side: odd law suits against Dow Corning (no science), the OJ Simpson trial (he did it), the whining about drugs from the supply side (the problem is with demand side), the beating up of Microsoft (what is wrong with Bill), the nonsense about stolen nuclear secrets (there are no secrets), and the weirdness with not exporting encryption know-how (it is just math) and all the eavesdropping on phone calls (try translating Hakka dialect in real time). The world will be a worse place without the US.<< Regards, Mike

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/6/2002 11:53:11 PM
From: Mark Adams	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay, Just wanted to let you know, privately, that before the election NPR (National Public Radio, the closest you can get to BBC in the US) had some comments on the Bush clan in general, and the younger Bush in particular. The sum of the story was that the younger Bush might not be the brightest bulb on the tree. By xmas, I had reconciled myself to the idea that the people voted themselves a tax cut by electing him, and are now enjoying that for what it is worth. I expressed the hope that he would surround himself with wise and able people, which I think he may have done, but I think he's a bit shy on experience and a bit too apt to take the reigns first, sort of ready fire aim, if ya know what I mean. Not to mention, that his council appears divided on issues of serious global geopolitical consequences. 8. I believe the Russians, Chinese on the mainland and on Taiwan, and even the Japanese are beginning to realize this, all attributable to Bush’s election victory. The damage Bush is doing to the US interest has been enormous, only not realized in the US; Realized in some circles, but not widely discussed or promoted by the popular press. 9. Bush is viewed by folks I talk to (all none US folks, such as PRC and Taiwan leadership types, HK business types, Russian consul general in HK, Japan ambassador to China, etc) as an intellectual lightweight, and all view it as a good thing that Bush Sr. is still around, along with Colin Powell; Ditto... 10. Ms. Rice is viewed as a pretender, and climber, of no particular substance, and dangerous; No comment on ms rice- I've not had the time to follow her closely. 11. In such circumstances, Bush is humored by all, even as they busily make their own preparations for their own needs. The US press is not realizing this at all, to my amazement, but then I have high expectations for people doing their jobs; The 2002 elections might shift the balance of power. I think there are some serious reservations about the positioning of the Bush leadership, with no hard data to back that up. Maybe it's just me, getting rubbed the wrong way by the lack of tact used in addressing issues like the ABM treaty or Kyoto accord. I almost regret living in a land called America, which appears to be on the same trend as Rome. Shame I can't get my family to uproot and relocate somewhere a bit more civilized, like say Papua New Guinea... <g> So, I let you know I'm still alive, still reading with fascination, and learning all the while, and still somewhat dismayed with the current course of affairs. May you continue to find prosperity and entertainment in the future to come.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/7/2002 1:08:18 AM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 74559

<However, I do know that the brand of Islam in India, encompassing its 180 mm believers, is of the most docile variety in the world, > "I believe if we consider the world's major religions from the widest perspective, we find that they are all- Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, and the others- directed toward helping human beings achieve lasting happiness. And each of them is, in my opinion, capable of facilitating this." -His Holiness the DALIA LAMA Of course, since 9/11 everyone in the US is suddenly an expert on Islam as well as most other religions and doing enough finger pointing to strain necks. DAK

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/7/2002 3:42:07 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<This Rumsfield attitude comes across again even in global warming … as in “China emits the most greenhouse gas” which is counter-balanced by “person for person, US accounts for most of the emissions”. > What a great attitude! Mutual admiration for environmental achievement. Neither of them can be considered to be not pulling their weight in recycling carbon back into the ecosphere and biosphere to increase the total life living [which are perhaps the same thing for all I know]. If we can just get that attitude extended to other spheres, such as steel, all will be well. PLH, Mq

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/7/2002 6:09:34 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<<The damage Bush is doing to the US interest has been enormous,>> The scary thing is that it is <<only not realized in the US;>> Yes, the guys in the US vote with their narrow little interests in mind, not realizing the effects the election of a given person for US president have in the whole world. America is too important to be left in the hand of the Americans alone. We've got to get elected a president that doesn't even know which is the capital of Iowa, but knows everything about foreign policy. The ignorance of major foreign issues by a US president, leaves the country at mercy of the fat cat bureaucrats that maneuvers the strings. This is the scary thing.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (16373)	3/7/2002 10:51:48 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 74559

>>do not forget to drag in DJ nilly by the willy.<< I cant add anything except when my urge to mix with you & Co gets the upper hand and forces my hand - we're all social animals... In any case I would just add the read/digested/regurgitated food for thought - re India for instance, with islands of peace and tolerance, with more or less the same mix as a day before in the village or town close by, that is just a smoking hole in the ground since this morning... Exogenic (out-of-town) factors...