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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20859)3/7/2002 7:30:23 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine, I realize the site I am linking is problematic - but the information in the page I am linking seems reliable enough that I think it's a fair representation of the other side's point of view vis-a-vis Barak's generous offer at Camp David.

electronicintifada.net

I am not the only person who thinks that Israel is wrong about the settlements - which does not make me anti-Israel.

I like it when Israelis come right out and say - "no, no, we will never give up the settlements, it's not on the table."

It is a fact, is it not, that the settlements are populated by deeply religious Jews, who by tradition do not serve in the IDF, but must be protected by bypass roads and checkpoints manned by the IDF? If Israel doesn't intend to change that, and it's not on the table, then just say so.

Much better than saying, "we offered them 95% and they spit on us." Which sounds whiny, and is disingenuous, IMO.

I don't really feel like looking for a less radical website right now. Sorry. If what they say isn't the truth, you can correct me or not, as you prefer. Just on the page I've linked. I have no idea what else they say. You already know how I feel about fraudulent journalism, I've expressed it before.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20859)3/7/2002 7:41:19 PM
From: KyrosL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I understand perfectly his point. I also understand perfectly Arafat's point: he cannot go back to his people with only 95% of the pre-67 West Bank or only 98% or even only 99%. After all the suffering, he cannot get less than what Egypt got. He must have 100%. Including East Jerusalem. And he must have a face saving solution for those displaced in the 1948 wars, which IMO can be monetary compensation that can be used to rebuild the West Bank. That, I think, is the price for lasting peace between Israel and the Arabs.

Kyros