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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20872)	3/8/2002 6:37:56 AM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>The war was stopped after Israel stopped losing and started winning. Without emergency American aid delivered at the front, Israel would never have started winning. In any case, the argument was not about who won at the end but that the Egyptians were a deadly enemy not too long ago, just as the Palestinians are now. And that they had killed a lot more Israelis than Palestinians ever did (more than 2,500 Israelis died in the twenty or so days of the '73 war,) and came pretty close to destroying the state of Israel. >>Arafat broke every part of his deal. Both sides broke the deal: Israel continued expanding the settlements from day one, in spite of strenuous American objections. How would you feel if your neighbor took over half your house and after agreeing in court to settle the matter and eventually withdraw he instead started kicking you out of more rooms?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20872)	3/8/2002 8:54:01 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

One minor difference: Egypt kept their peace deal; they didn't take the land and then attack again. Arafat broke every part of his deal. Also, another big difference is that their is nothing that states that the Palestinians have a right to receive the totality of the West Bank and/or Gaza. Both geographical areas are artificial creations(partitions) from an era gone by and long "overcome by events" (such as annexation by Jordan). Both Israel and the Palestinians need to be very careful as to how far back they wish to cite some historical boundary. So far as I legally see it, the Palestinians are actually Jordanians, having once been willing citizens of Jordan prior to 1967. Jordan can attempt to disavow any claim to the land, but the people living on the West Bank can still be technically construed as Jordanian citizens since the PA is not a state, but a political entity. And one wonders, were a regional way to break out, whether Israel would force all the Palestinians to flee to Jordan (no matter how much sympathy they might have for King Abdullah and the current peace with Jordan) and tell them,.. "Look, Jordan is now your Palestinian state"... Don't mess with us any longer or we'll destroy it also. Events certainly seem to be gradually heading in that direction day by day. Hawk