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To: Dan3 who wrote (73983)	3/7/2002 10:22:26 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Pentium 4M shows poor performance theinquirer.net "Desknotes", Pentium III-Ms do well By Mike Magee, 07/03/2002 09:23:26 BST THE VAUNTED 43% performance boost that Pentium 4 mobile chips are supposed to give over Pentium III-Ms might only apply if you're Photoshopping or Dreamweaving away, a report from ZD Net UK has warned. And despite Intel's grave warnings about using desktop Pentium 4 CPUs in notebook setups, these type of machines are hundreds of dollars cheaper and also have reasonable battery lives, the same report suggests. Intel incensed quite a few manufacturers by introducing its Pentium 4 mobile platform early, we reported yesterday, but the report says that a Dell Inspiron it tested showed no appreciable gains over machines using the Pentium III-M mobile microprocessor. This was particularly true of office applications, where the Pentium III-M continues to shine. That may be because office applications, like Microsoft Word and its ilk, are not optimised for the Screaming Sindy II extensions built into the Pentium 4 core. Nevertheless, if you're one of the mobile warriors that have to rapidly render videos of the AMD Hammer chip - like a German journalist we saw at the Intel Developer Forum last week - a fully fledged Pentium 4M mobile may be the chip for you. According to the review, the 1.7GHz Inspiron 8200 which Dell released earlier this week may actually lag behind so called "desktop-notebook" configurations and ZD Net said that in some tests it ran, it fell below a 1.13GHz Pentium III-M on office suites. This is far from good news for Intel, which has rushed to deliver the Pentium 4M ahead of time. Yesterday we reported that ECS (Elitegroup) was likely to ship 100,000 notebooks, "Desknotes", using an ordinary Pentium 4 in a notebook chassis. The review did not test the enhanced Speedstep configuration provided by the Pentium 4M, but we know of old that Dell and other manufacturers had difficulties delivering Speedstep machines for the Pentium III notebook chip.

To: Dan3 who wrote (73983)	3/8/2002 4:57:53 AM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Dear Dan: Check your facts! Those are NW speedups at 0.13u not, 0.18u P4s. 0.18u P4 speedups are in the 10% range. So AXP 2000 gets 30% to 2.2GHz and P4 gets 10% to 2.2GHz both at 0.18u. Seems that "wire delays" affect the P4 far more than AXP. So much for the wire delay mitigation stages of P4. Point made. BTW, if AXP uses that 18% advantage to get to the same LN2 overclock advantage, it would run at 2GHz or as fast as the top 0.18u P4 and do SuperPI as fast as a 3.3GHz NW. Maybe it should be called the AXP 3300+. LOL! Pete