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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (1833)	3/8/2002 8:19:01 PM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

I don't remember that we Irish issued you imperialist pigs a gold plated invitation to invade! As I said, that was the Pope (well, one of them - I think, this was when there were two undisputed lords of the One True Church, not counting the one who died). He generously gave rule of all Ireland to John, in return for support against the other Pope. Which was nice. It would have been even nicer had he either the right or the ability to mean it, but hey - it's the Papal thought that counted. And why exactly would anyone ever want to invade Ireland anyway? Back in Caesar's time, people that had seen the Welsh called the Irish primitive. Even the Vikings gave up on it, except the few that stayed on for the fighting. Not that anyone needed an invite to invade in those days. Now, well, what kind of uncivilised barbarian would ever launch an invasion of another sovereign state... er... The Scots actually did rather well. Their monarchs got imposed on England, and what a bargain that was - we got James I, Charles I, etc, and they got fire and the secret of writing. But I agree the Welsh got the sh*tty end of the stick. Starting from when the Saxons pushed them into Wales, really. great scenery but not much else. Still, they had a set of kings too - the Tudors were Welsh.