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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (1884)	3/8/2002 9:03:08 PM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Suppose he had decided to give England to Ireland. I don't think there was an Irish king at the time (not who could have even nominal control over the whole island)... but yes, interesting alternative history. Probably not likely, though, as Ireland wasn't any use as an ally. My dear boy, the Irish were literate when you brutes didn't there was such a word. Er, read your claimed history. The Celts took considerable pride in NOT reading. The bards were renowned for their memory, and would never commit a skald or verse or point of law to paper - it ruined the magic. The written word was an Xtian import which weakened the strength of the Celtic culture, helping the old bonds of the land fragment. English and Irish both learnt it from the Romans, English first since they got conquered first. After the fall of the Western Empire, the Brits retained it equally well - ever heard of the Venerable Bede? (presumably not...). That was simply because they kept getting their butts kicked. Which better than you Brits did. Hello... Dublin was a Viking town. the Brits moved in there and spread out. Scotland had Viking kingdoms, again until English rule (Kingdom of the Isles, etc). Meanwhile even Erik Bloodaxe got absorbed into the mighty English inheritance, LOL. We were never kindly to the Scots. We just let them have a run of kings, and what a mistake that was. The Welsh lost Calais, the Scots lost money, and then the Germans lost America... sigh. We never claimed to be kindly. But we were out-and-out imperialists, we didn't preach and pontificate about liberty while subjugating other races or realms. Bring back the Pax Britannica, I say ;) [lend us a navy, will you?]