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To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (161670)	3/9/2002 2:50:15 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Monica, Re: "Sources a cigarette paper's width away from AMD confirm that's what's happening round about the 20th, and that we won't see fully fledged machines running the Thoroughbred until about eight weeks afterwards." Thoroughbred at the end of May? Not good for AMD, IMO. This stinks as bad as Palomino. Of course, the flip side is that Palomino launched with good micro-architectural enhancements, and a huge boost in frequency. Maybe AMD is delaying TBred to add extra cache, for example. Re: "In other news on the Thoroughbred front, German site Tweak PC claims that AMD might show a 2800+ (2.2GHz) behind the scenes at CeBIT next week." If all AMD can manage for a "gee-whiz" demo is 2.2GHz, then their .13u process is further behind than I thought. I guess it will depend on whether or not they need "exotic" cooling for a 2.2GHz CPU or not, but even if they don't, the best they can hope for is the standard 9 months following a "gee-whiz" demo before we actually see production systems at that speed. wbmw