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To: Dan B. who wrote (237232)	3/13/2002 5:52:49 AM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

>> I'm quite confident too, that your supposed historical expamples like G.B., for instance, can be fairly viewed quite differently than as you report it. << by all means show me where i reported the facts wrong. >> the fact that you allude to Keynes and Marx in stride might indicate strongly to the still unsure reader, that tariffs are NOT rooted in traditional conservative principles << marx was only in favor of free trade because he thought it so destructive that it would hasten the onset of the revolution. i never suggested he believed free trade would work. my qualm with you on keynes was not your claim that he was in favor of big government (liberal), my qualm was that you painted him as anti-free-trade when he was an ardent free trader until after the depression when he got a dose of the real world and woke up. >> even Libertarian Harry Browne, whom I voted for, supports using only the constitutional tariffs our founding fathers instituted, to fund our government. But tariffs aren't consistent with conservative principles, and a whole mess of consevatives/libertarians see it just as I damn well do. << so let me get this straight. you voted for harry browne--who you say is in favor of tariffs, yet you are spending all this time arguing with me that tariffs are bad? huh? >> Free Trade is for free peoples, young and naive, old and wise, or in-between who are fully understanding << there is a slight problem. we conduct trade with countries where the people are not free. now do you see why it might not be so fair? p.s. i am not against reducing trade barriers on our trading partners that play by the same rules, and share our values and standard of living. soon as everyone adopts a moral culture with a similar constitution we can have true free trade. but we all know that won't happen. therefore we must use and or threaten to use tariffs to protect our interests.