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To: Bald Eagle who wrote (2590)	3/14/2002 8:09:55 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Don't know much about the internment camps, to be fair: they were introduced, there was an outcry about them here and they were closed - but I was very young at the time so didn't follow the news much. How long were people interned for? On what grounds were they interned? How many were convicted? If released, were they compensated? Were they given legal protection, or representation? Were they armed? Were they in uniform? Were they given POW status? What were the alternatives? &c, &c... I genuinely don't know these. And my stance on NI is that we should have pulled out and left the Catholics at the mercy of the Protestants as soon as the first IRA gun was fired. Serve 'em right and let 'em die. We don't need or want them in our country. As for Bloody Sunday, the defence of the paratroopers is that they were warned to expect trouble, then fired upon from the crowd... there's a colossal inquiry going on right now, expected to last another couple of years. Given the IRA tactics of hiding in crowds and shooting soldiers from ambush in civilian cover - they were and are terrorists, remember - I don't expect the soldiers to be convicted. Of course, the Noraid crowd love the propaganda angle. I'd advise you not to take the Hollywood films as accurate historical record... Finally, for those leaping to point out how the Brits in history were such monsters... what justification then do you have, now, if you say and know such things are wrong with hindsight??

To: Bald Eagle who wrote (2590)	3/14/2002 8:42:41 AM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 21057

where was the outcry from the British press about the summary execution of the US soldier who fell out of the helicopter? The British, who left their share of dead in Afghanistan, would probably remind us of what Kipling had to say: If you are wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains And the women come out to cut up what remains Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains And go to your grave like a soldier Two of the basic realities of fighting in a place like that: 1. They do not acknowledge our rules and will not follow them. 2. We still have to follow our rules, because they are ours and we want to be the good guys. If we don't like those realities we shouldn't be fighting there. An outcry is pretty pointless.