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To: uu who wrote (1354)	3/15/2002 5:16:07 AM
From: giamoncefini10	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

and you know why my dear friend? because liberalism took over it, by deviating from the real Christianity thus the Bible, read Timothy (2-(9-15)" a women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire....let a women learn in silence with all submissivness, I permit no women to teach or to have authority over men, she is to keep silent." but Christians women completely deviated from the teaching of the bible, I ve been living here for 15 years only few women possess those qualities that the Bible so it is not only the Quran that teach Macho so does the Bible but you do not hear for the Christian because if they do teach what the Bible preach all the women in this country will let down Christianity also read Peter 3: likewise you wives be submissive to your husbands....as Sarah obeyed Abraham calling him Lord" I was a catholic my friend and let me tell you that you I know the Bible by heart, the point Moslems do not want to change their religions to please people, God decide the laws not we people, Socrates said the same thing by the way, if God want to change the Laws then he would send a new prophet, to do so but they wont be any cos that was a divine promise of God to Mohammed, the choice for as Moslem now is either to follow the Quran which are the word of God or start changing the Quran to please the world. and there is nothing macho in the Quran anyway are assuming is far behind the west because of the religion, you are wrong, read Moslem history: andalusia Glory; did you know that # season fashion was introduced by arabians, when Vereyad use to design Caliph Mamoun clothing brought the concept of changing fashion corresponding to the changing of the seasons (fall, summer..) Andalusian fashion habits were then imitated by Europeans did you know that my dear friend? Cordoba had 900 public baths, several large markets, fifty hospistals, 100 of libraries, the first univeristy in the world was in Morocco, europe was darkened at sunset, cordova shone with public lamps, europe was dirty, lay in mud, cordova street were paved, europe's nobility could not sign its name, moslems went to schools for 500 to 600 hunderd years books in Arabic were the only sources of learning and teaching in the european universties, so my dear friend you should not blame the Quran but blame yourself, moslems leaded the world in Mathematics, science, and so on and you know what they were good moslems and without democrazy will disagree with Napoleon who wrote in his personal journal that Islam was the right religion. Unfortunately the moslem world now is lazy, they do not want to go to school, spend hours in front of tv watching soap operas instead of studying math and logic, they play soccer, smoke, drink, abuse women, fight their neighboors, undisciplined, criminals, drug dealers, is that teaching of the Quran? let me tell what is Islam: if your boss tell you to work till 5 work till 6 or even 7 if you can do so and that is what Jihad means Jihad means to be perfect in your daily, be nice with your wife, treat her good, open the door of the car for her, buy flowers, diamonds, love your kids, invite your neighboors to dinner chat with them, help the poor, volunteer with some organization (red cross)to help your community, keep learning and learning, open your mind to other religion, be nice the Christians, Jewish, or even atheist, to end: Moslems have to change themselves, their behaviors and most of all get educated even if you have to get a loan cos even if you bankrupt nobody will take your degree from you and that is my message to the Moslems.

To: uu who wrote (1354)	3/15/2002 8:44:21 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Respond to of 2926

--Christianity (the religion) has gone through its sanitation process where Christians have adopted the love and the peace that the "Christinaity faith" offers to mankind thus ignoring all the ritualistic matters of "Christianity the religion" which may imply violence. Islam on the other hand is long away from its sanitation process and continues to advocate nothing but a backward out of date mentality that does not fit the 21st century humanity. -- poppycock

To: uu who wrote (1354)	3/15/2002 11:58:31 AM
From: CountofMoneyCristo	Respond to of 2926

Islam on the other hand is long away from its sanitation process and continues to advocate nothing but a backward out of date mentality that does not fit the 21st century humanity. Neatly put. I completely agree. To me it is likewise laughable how many Muslims and their apologists attempt to justify murder. Even when they spout their questionable - in view of Muslim actions, not words - condemnation of violence, almost every time they at the same time seek to relate Muslim violence to some perceived injustice, to what others do. And yet even that argument holds no water, as none of the other major religions openly target members of different faiths as Muslims do and have done for years. No other religion oppresses women and "infidels" as does Islam. No other religion seeks to make illegal the worship of others. No other religion has state sponsors who in the name of that religion surgically remove hands, feet, gouge out eyes and behead citizens without any semblance of due process. Verdict in secret; barbaric sentence carried out in public. The Gulf States are the modern-day equivalent of Nazi Germany. No wonder they supported Adolf Hitler during World War II. That fact cannot easily be dismissed, and the similarities between these brutally repressive, Fascist states and the Hitlerian model are most very striking indeed. The Nazi state was built on terror; so likewise are these today. You know, if Americans took the same line as have the Muslims now, then it would be morally justifiable to blow up Mecca, Medina, the Al Aqsa Mosque, make Islam illegal and punishable by jail time in the West, and send thousands of suicide bombers to Riyadh, Kuwait City, Damascus, Baghdad, Tehran, Kuwait City, Tripoli, Khartoum, Beirut and any other place "infidels" who do not share western religion and thought to mass murder those who dare disagree with us. Then we, in the West, far wealthier and more powerful than Muslim nations, would seed their society with educational institutions indoctrinating children and adults with absolute hatred towards the host government. When we are done with that, we would then claim Muslims deserved it. This is exactly what Muslims have done. The only difference here is that when we attack Muslims, they have first targeted us. That gives us the right, and I am of the view that our retaliation for September 11 has been remarkably restrained indeed. One single more Muslim attack on the West and there will be a backlash against Muslims that will make some of the statements here seem timid by comparison. Muslims should be very concerned of that right now. They should be doing more to squelch murderers among them. When they read the Western press and read the phrase, "the much-feared clash of civilizations," and believe it is the West which fears this, think again: if it happens, Islam will be wiped off the map, and Americans and their friends and allies across the world will not give it a second thought. That, my friends, can and likely will, happen, if there is another massive attack on us. I for one am very glad the President has answered Rafsanjani's nuclear threat against Israel with our own: resort to weapons of mass destruction and you will face the full wrath and fury of the United States. Perhaps now it is merely a vocal minority who are willing to use nuclear weapons against Muslim states which target the free peoples of the West- I am not among them, YET - but one more attack and I will be the first to advocate massive retaliation that will pound those responsible so badly that they will remember it for a thousand years. I am amazed Muslims have dared claim offense or do anything else but abjectly apologize for the mass murder that has been committed in the name of Islam, by Muslims.