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To: Elmer who wrote (74631)3/15/2002 11:57:23 AM
From: porn_start878Respond to of 275872
 
For those who are interested, yields are described in terms of defect density not percent. Because the die is smaller, a TB yield that simply matches the percentage of the Athlon yield would actually be worse yield. It should be a higher percent with equal defect density.

AMD is apparently very concerned about liability for false or misleading statements. That's why when asked about "yields" they described their "line yield" as over 90%, a totally useless metric but enough to fool the analysts. If they are backing off the "World Class Yields" claim it is because it is measureable and they can be shown to be making false statements. "Approaching mature yields" is totally immorphic and has no definable meaning. It could however be shown to be misleading.


Has Intel ever been more specific on their statements? Yeilds/binsplit must remain secret, I really don't see any fact to back up your assumptions of FAB30 production problems. OTOH, yeilds/binsplit is a perfect field for FUDing since there is never hard data to prove wrong. That's what a FUDster loves : suspicions that can't be proven wrong.

Max



To: Elmer who wrote (74631)3/15/2002 12:00:59 PM
From: YousefRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Elmer,

Re: "That's why when asked about "yields" they described their "line yield"
as over 90%, a totally useless metric but enough to fool the analysts ..."

ROTFLMAO ... You have to be kidding, right ?? Why would AMD quote
their "line yield". This makes no sense ... unless ... the functional
yield (defect density) is "piss poor" -> technical term coined
during the AMD .35um and .25um days. <ggg>

Make It So,
Yousef