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To: carranza2 who wrote (16882)3/16/2002 10:31:02 PM
From: LLCF  Respond to of 74559
 
<Perhaps the better question is this one: Why do we even bother to consider the question of God's existence?>

Chicken or the Egg perhaps... however I would argue that the fact of religion being part of every one of our very fabric... our history, culture, language [part of our basic communication] obviates the question. Since god IS part of our experience, the subject is worth discussing.

<At the root of all these religions, however, is the Big Question of why we are here. Each religion answers it differently, but naturally there is no proof that any are correct.>

Is that right???? That is the root of all religion... why are we here?

<. Each religion answers it differently, but naturally there is no proof that any are correct. Anyone who believes in any religion's causality formula should believe in the Tooth Fairy. >

Actually most religious myths and mythologies are very similar in many ways. They have come to be interpreted in different ways, but it is not clear that they may not have similar or the same roots.

<On the other hand, science has proven equally incapable of telling us anything about causality--but it is getting there. Unlike religions, science is making stready progress. >

Please ellaborate... I see little in science that couldn't easily be incorperated in religion... despite some present day interpretations by fringe groups. Where do you see science answering your 'big question'?

<<. At the end of the day, religions are subtle superstitions carrying the explanatory power of a block of cement. The less bloody ones of course serve as useful socializing tools to keep our more aggressive instincts in check. We are presently witnessing what the more bloody ones can achieve in degrading culture and civilization.>>

Again... since religion and it's ideas essentially transcend the spoken word, I don't see much lack of explaination of anything explained by any other means... and also therefore the second point [keeping instincts in check] is transcended... the religions ARE the acts AND the being and therefore can't be separated out into simply 'rules or laws' that they also impliment.

DAK



To: carranza2 who wrote (16882)3/17/2002 4:06:09 PM
From: yard_man  Respond to of 74559
 
>>At the end of the day, religions are subtle superstitions carrying the explanatory power of a block of cement. <<

I strongly disagree. My view is: We ask these questions because there ARE real answers -- but again, by definition, they are not discoverable by the methods of science. Science will never describe our purpose here. Never.

Twain was simply someone reacting against his contemporary Christian influences. I have heard enough of his writings put into drama, that I wouldn't bother to read more of his musings.

Causality is not purpose.